 | USAAF Bombing Statistics from 1942 to 1944| Aviation Discuss USAAF Bombing Statistics from 1942 to 1944 in the World War II - Aviation forums; Interesting Figures here, what do you think.... |
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05-17-2005, 08:27 AM
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#1 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | USAAF Bombing Statistics from 1942 to 1944 Interesting Figures here, what do you think.
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05-17-2005, 09:58 AM
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#2 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | very interesting, and i can't help but notise the lancaster did considderably better than the B-17 
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05-17-2005, 10:01 AM
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Country: | What is the source of these figures? I am curious as the B-17 figures seem to jive with what I have seen, or are pretty close. I have not seen the others, so I would like to know where the numbers came from.
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05-17-2005, 11:45 AM
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| Sorry if Im being dumb here, does 'Enemy Kills Claimed' refer to the number of fighter kills claimed by crews of that a/c type, or kills claimed by the LW against the a/c type?
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05-17-2005, 12:01 PM
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#5 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Even I am not sure if the stats here are accurate it was just something to think about. If anyone has other figures, please post them so we can compare and talk about them.
BombTaxi that is a good question, when I first read it I was think the number of aircraft that the Luftwaffe lost but it could also go that way too.
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05-17-2005, 12:06 PM
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| Hmm, it just seems strange that the LW would underclaim kills so severly...and on the flipside, that US medium bomber crews would claim so few kills 
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05-17-2005, 12:07 PM
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Country: | It refers to the claims of the gunners on the bombers. Obviously everyone questions those claims. It is understandable how they could be inflated with many gunners shooting at the same target. I think those numbers are very inflated and most historians will agree.
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05-17-2005, 12:10 PM
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#8 | | Senior Member
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| I'd grant the heavies overclaimed...then again, that was inevitable in a Combat Box, because most gunners who saw an enemy plane going down would probably have had a pop at it. I don't envy the Intelligence Officers who had to sort out who killed what!
On the other hand, Im mystified by the fact that A-20 and A-26 crews claimed just 18 enemy a/c between them...surely, with A-20s in New Guinea and A-26s in the ETO/MTO, those claims are far too low?
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05-17-2005, 12:12 PM
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05-17-2005, 12:56 PM
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#10 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I think you are correct it is bomber kills of enemy fighters. It would be very hard to confirm these those because as even was saying gunners shot at the same aircraft and would claim the same aircraft.
Great website by the way Kanuk
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