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Old 01-07-2007, 08:29 PM   #16
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"I kinda find that hard to believe that the seat was only comfortable for the 30th percentile ..."

I believe it said 20th percentile!
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Old 01-08-2007, 08:58 AM   #17
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everything i have come across has never said that the P-47 cockpit was cramped This quote was a first impression of the P-47 cockpit by a P-47 pilot in WWII "....I felt if i slipt of the seat i would break my damn leg!" I don't who it was though, and if that is the exact quote
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:35 PM   #18
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It would have been nice to have a P-38 in the mix.
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Old 01-08-2007, 12:43 PM   #19
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everything i have come across has never said that the P-47 cockpit was cramped This quote was a first impression of the P-47 cockpit by a P-47 pilot in WWII "....I felt if i slipt of the seat i would break my damn leg!" I don't who it was though, and if that is the exact quote
I read something to the same effect. I think it was from a pilot of the US 4th FG when transitioning from the Spit to the P-47.
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And keep in mind that an average male was likely 5'5" and 150lbs.
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Old 01-08-2007, 03:34 PM   #21
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How do you figure? I'd say that the "average" American male was taller 60 years ago because of the tremendous nunbers of Hispanics and Asians that have immigrated here since then.
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Old 01-08-2007, 06:57 PM   #22
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You'd be wrong Jank. Americans were on average in the 5'1" range in the 1800s. Scientists claim that this is directly related to protein intake. If I recall correctly, American males are on average 5'9" today. Perhaps 5'1" is too low, but likely not by much.

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Indeed.

One thing that surprised me was the cramped cockpit of the P-47. Evaluations of these same aircraft in the Joint Fighter Conference indicated that the cockpit was quite spacious, thereby helping to alleviate the problems associated with long missions.
You don't really need all that much room in the cockpit - it doesn't seem all that bad. Actually looks pretty comfortable.
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Old 01-08-2007, 07:14 PM   #24
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With all due respect. In WWII, the average American man was not 5'5" tall as stated by you.

From the early 60's through to 2000 (a 40 year period), the average height for men grew just one inch. The height went from 5'8" to 5'9". You are asking us to believe that in the previous just twenty years (1940's to 60's), the height had grown 3" (three times the amount in half the time) from 5'5" to 5'8".

"Men's average height increased from 5 feet 8 inches in the early 1960s to 5 feet 9 inches in 1999-2002."

USATODAY.com - Americans growing taller and wider

LiveScience.com - Four-Decade Study: Americans Taller, Fatter

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I have also read of one pilot's comments (I don't recall where) that the P-47's cockpit was so big that you could run around inside to dodge your opponents bullets.
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With all due respect. In WWII, the average American man was not 5'5" tall as stated by you.

From the early 60's through to 2000 (a 40 year period), the average height for men grew just one inch. The height went from 5'8" to 5'9". You are asking us to believe that in the previous just twenty years (1940's to 60's), the height had grown 3" (three times the amount in half the time) from 5'5" to 5'8".

"Men's average height increased from 5 feet 8 inches in the early 1960s to 5 feet 9 inches in 1999-2002."

USATODAY.com - Americans growing taller and wider

LiveScience.com - Four-Decade Study: Americans Taller, Fatter

I stand corrected, Jank. This is becoming my best feature.
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I think man is becoming taller due to all of the growth hormones that are given to the cattle that we consume.
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jeez for people that eat so much of it you're not very trusting of beef are you? maybe you're becoming bigger because you eat so much?
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Lanc! lol I lived in UK '97-2000, and I know that you lot eat beef and dairy like no one else on the planet! Mighty good beef too.

I also remember a TV program called "Tourist Trap". In the program they did blind tests on beer consumption of tourists from Japan, Germany, US, and England at a Turkish resort. The English consumed something like 2 times as much as the next closest group (the Americans). You've been touring again?

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