 | Versatile Heavy Bombers| Aviation Discuss Versatile Heavy Bombers in the World War II - Aviation forums; Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass
to carry a tallboy no modifications were needed, the only one nessisary was ... |
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01-03-2006, 06:18 AM
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#31 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass to carry a tallboy no modifications were needed, the only one nessisary was the fitting of slightly bulged bomb bay doors, the lancs chosen to carry the tallboy already had these due to the 8,000lb blockbuster, and to carry a grand slam the only modification needed was the romoval of the bomb bay doors (the british liked smooth things so they faired in the bomb bay too), the turrets and men were only romoved in the actual operational lancs to increase range, the could lift it with the turrets and men in place............ | Lanc listen to yourself. That is a modification of the Lancaster. The bomb would not fit in there with the standard doors.
I do have to say Lanc you need to let go of your one sidedness here and realize what you are saying. That is a modification! 
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01-03-2006, 02:19 PM
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#32 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | you said it needed modification to take a tallboy! it doesn't, it needs modification to take a grand slam! were you getting your bombs mixed up?
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01-03-2006, 02:30 PM
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| Putting in slightly modified bomb bay doors for the Lanc. is a minor change. Probably could be done by a few mechanics in a few hours. Wouldnt change the aerodymamics to any big deal of the plane either.
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01-03-2006, 02:33 PM
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#34 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | are you aware of how big the tallboy is? the B-24 could just bout take the weight but where're you gonna put it? it aint going in the B-24's bomb bay.....
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01-03-2006, 02:38 PM
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#35 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country:  | The B-24 had "sliding" bomb bay doors, this would of been impossible
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01-03-2006, 02:41 PM
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#36 | | Master of Ewes
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01-03-2006, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass didn't crews also enter the B-24 through the bomb bay? | I believe so - I also think there was a door near the tail. I was in one once several years ago, I remember entering from the bomb bay.
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01-03-2006, 02:47 PM
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#38 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i was trying to read up on the B-24 a bit this morning and thought that was a bit weird.........
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01-03-2006, 02:49 PM
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| To clarify, I reffered to the Lanc as having the change that would be no big deal. I edited my post to clarify that.
The B24 couldnt be modified easily.
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01-03-2006, 02:52 PM
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#40 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | thanks for clarifying that, sorry for the missunderstanding..........
and is that a general statement about the B-24 or just for a tallboy?
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01-03-2006, 02:58 PM
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| if youre saying that the bomb bays didnt need extensive modification to carry the bombs, I will yield to your facts.
I would consider "extensive" or "moderate" modifications as having the airframe changed to the point it would have to go to hanger for the work, maybe even bringing in an engineer to look at it to see that the plane wont fall apart from the change.
And the B24 couldnt be chnaged without major work done. The center "aisle" was a stress bearing part of the airframe. If you move it, it looks like the longitudal strength of the fuselauge would be compromised.
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01-03-2006, 03:08 PM
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#42 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | which also rules out the B-24 as being able to carry most of the lanc's payloads............
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01-03-2006, 03:23 PM
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| It could carry the most widely used bombs.
500 LBS
1000 LBS
and the incenderie cluster bombs.
Anything else was a waste of effort.
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Country: | that's america's most widely used bombs, the british 4,000lb cookie was one of the best bombs of the war, and one of the most effective.........
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01-04-2006, 01:09 PM
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#45 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Lanc even you said that the Lancaster could not fit a Tallboy into its bombay with the standard doors. So a modified Lancaster had to carry them. Whether that modification was intended for the Tallboy or the Grandslam or whatever bomber it was. That slight modification is still a modification.
Here are your words:
to carry a tallboy no modifications were needed, the only one nessisary was the fitting of slightly bulged bomb bay doors, the lancs chosen to carry the tallboy already had these due to the 8,000lb blockbuster,
Lanc that is a modificaton, and without it the Tallboys would not have fit.
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