 | Wasn't the STUKA the best dive bomber to see service in WWII| Aviation Discuss Wasn't the STUKA the best dive bomber to see service in WWII in the World War II - Aviation forums; 475ft/min, not good at all.Once the failings of the Roc became all too apparent, the Skua was also ... |
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04-12-2005, 03:35 PM
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Country:  | 475ft/min, not good at all.Once the failings of the Roc became all too apparent, the Skua was also tasked as a fleet defence fighter. The Germans cant have known this, they'd have gone after the North Sea carriers they hadnt already sunk...
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04-12-2005, 03:54 PM
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Country:  | Dauntless ,Hands down...I've heard stories of Dauntlesses flying as fighters, and actually doing well against Japanese fighters.
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04-12-2005, 03:59 PM
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Service ceiling 20,500 ft (reached in 43 mins), the Skua had a very poor rate of climb.
| A B-17 on 3 engines at half throttle could do better than that... 
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Country:  | Naw sod that, the WRIGHT FLYER with a really fat man piloting it could do better 
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04-12-2005, 04:08 PM
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Country: | The Flyer would probably outurn a Skua too, and the bloke maight well do more damage than a 250lb GP... but I digress
I think the Skua's out of the running on this thread, and Im still sticking with the SBD 
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04-12-2005, 04:11 PM
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Country: | I think the Dauntless will get this one. Although the Stuka gave the image of German invincibility, it was the SBD, in one decisive battle that really came through when it had to. | |
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04-12-2005, 04:12 PM
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Country: | Yep. Also, the Stuka was only fully effective with total air superiority.
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Country: | For being obsolete, SBDs shot down 135 enemy aircraft. Ens. Lepella and his gunner had 7 kills between them (Lapella 5 - an Ace!)
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04-12-2005, 05:02 PM
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Country: | I think it would of been cool to be an SBD gunner, silk scarf, goggles, cigar - yep!  | |
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04-13-2005, 12:36 PM
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| Although i prefer the look of the SBD, I think the Stuka had the greater impact in the war, especially the early stages through Poland & France, It put the wind up anyone who was on the receiving end. Obvously, when it came up against fighters it stood little chance, and was withdrawn from the battle of britain because of this, but it still proved its worth in russia - as flown by the likes of Hans Ulrich Rudel who was the highest decorated pilot in the Luftwaffe - he destroyed millions of pounds worth of hardware.
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04-13-2005, 01:14 PM
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04-13-2005, 01:17 PM
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Country: | But the SBD played a massive part in destroying the IJNs carriers - more than anything else, that decised the war in the Pacific. And Id argue that the Tiffy, IL2 and Jug were far better in the CAS role than the Stuka, both in performance, and in the havoc they caused amongst thier victims.
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04-13-2005, 01:19 PM
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#28 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | hey the avenger played a huge part in the pacific as well you know.........
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04-13-2005, 01:24 PM
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Country: | True, as did the TBD. But they werent dive bombers  And , I still think that the SBDs role in destroying the IJN as a fighting force was greater than the Stukas part in winning the Blitzkreig...although I suppose that is another thread
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04-13-2005, 01:34 PM
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| Bomb Taxi said, "And Id argue that the Tiffy, IL2 and Jug were far better in the CAS role than the Stuka, both in performance, and in the havoc they caused amongst thier victims. "
Uh oh. Here we go again. I hope Udet doesn't see this. (See the thread entitled, "The ETO's finest single engined ground attack aircraft")
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