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01-08-2006, 11:20 PM
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This I have always wondered about. What plane had the heaviest weight of fire in a 2 sec burst? Weight of fire meaning = most devastating fire. ME262 ? I want two answers here:
1) Heaviest weight of fire for any plane meant for air to air combat (not ground attack planes). (anti bomber killer sure)
2)Heaviest weight of fire for any plane meant for air superiority (this would be more just purely air superiority fighter not a bomber killing).
No rockets here, give us one allied and axis plane for both 1, 2.
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01-09-2006, 07:13 AM
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| Probably is the Me262A-1a, with 12.5 Kg per second of fire, and the second colud be the TA-152H-1, with 5,9 Kg
On the other hand, the first had only eight and ten seconds of fire with the two couples of gun, and the Ta-152, 9 seconds of fire with the MK 108, and 14 seconds with the two 20 mm guns.
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01-09-2006, 08:21 AM
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| Weight of shot for a 3 sec burst
Dora 9 - 26lb (2 20mm, 2 13mm)
F6F - 16lb (6 0.50")
Tempest - 40lb (4 20mm)
Yak 3 - 20lb (1 20mm, 2 12.7mm)
Me262 - 96lb (4 30mm)
Me109E - 13lb (2 20mm, 2 7.9mm)
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01-09-2006, 10:12 AM
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| Here is a comprehensive table http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaver...n/fgun-ta.html
With some analisys it is possible to extrapolate weight of fire of some missing version (es: FW 190A8 - 2x12.7 + 4xMG151 = 6.7 Kg/s)
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01-09-2006, 10:15 AM
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Country:  | What about a P.108A firing 102mm shells? I should think they weigh a lot 
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass was that gun actually ever fired in anger?? | Nope, the first and I think only time it was fired it riped the front of the plane off and had to make an emergency landing 
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Lanc, it was Italian. Italians don't get angry, they're lovers not fighters
| Yup, it was originally intended to export money to Switzerland cheating on the Customs officers: plan was to load the ammo with money, fly above the alps and shoot at a purposedly designed Swiss bank caveau.
Traditional methods of hiring locals to walk over the border at night proved more effective and less expensive.
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01-12-2006, 07:15 AM
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01-13-2006, 07:06 AM
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| Loom, if it was for me the sad thing is that I did not drink...
And even more sad I have lost my good arm at drinking, can't stand the quantity I used to when I was young and bold...
Could be a justification to say that I wrote it after the preparation of the year end financial report?
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