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07-17-2005, 09:46 AM
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#76 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country:  | My understanding on this was the radar could kill critters while the aircraft was on the ground.
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07-17-2005, 09:51 AM
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#77 | | He who does not skim
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Country:  | Oh probably, I was just being a smartass. 
Seeing as how it's PD's fav plane and all.   | |
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07-17-2005, 09:57 AM
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#78 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by Nonskimmer Oh probably, I was just being a smartass.
Seeing as how it's PD's fav plane and all. | 
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07-17-2005, 10:04 AM
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Country:  | You know, NS, I'm going to get a F.6 Lightning to fly Mach 2.3 and ram it's pitot right up your arse. How's that sound?
I don't know if the Lightning's RADAR could kill a rabbit - but then they hardly turned their RADAR on while on the ground anyway, maybe that's why. You'd get loads of dead rabbits all over the airfield...
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07-17-2005, 10:24 AM
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#80 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | and they'd proberly all get sucked into the engines as it was taking off
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07-17-2005, 10:43 AM
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Country: | There is actually such thing as rabbit strike. When one is stupid enough to be on the runway when an aircraft is landing or taking off. It's never too healthy for the undercarriage - a bit messy too, I'm told. Several Lightnings took rabbit strikes to their undercarriage - at a 190 MPH landing speed, the rabbit doesn't have much a chance to get out of the way.
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07-18-2005, 01:09 PM
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#82 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Damn that would suck. Bird strikes suck pretty bad. We had one go through the center windscreen at 150kts. You heard a really loud pop and then a large splatter of blood everywhere and then a poof of feathers all through the cockpit and cabin. The passengers thought we had been hit and the crew wounded because there was blood everywhere and they were screaming. It sucked but I could do nothing but laugh afterwards.
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07-18-2005, 01:27 PM
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#83 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | If the crew had been hit, how would they explain the cloud of feathers? | |
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07-18-2005, 01:31 PM
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#84 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | When I was working Flight for Life, my helicopter got a birdstrike a year before I started. The crew was transporting a baby, a Hawk just missed the flight nurse's head! The pilot, an old Viet Nam Loach pilot landed the heicopter on a football field with no further damage. The heilcopter was repaied and put back into service. When I was woking there and pulling major inspections, once and awhile I would still find feathers!
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07-18-2005, 01:33 PM
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#85 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | God bless the old timers. | |
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07-18-2005, 03:48 PM
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Country: | In the Nimrod station in RAF Finningley they used to have pictures of aircraft that had landed after bird strikes - they can cause some serious damage! Wings with massive holes in them, engines ripped to shreds, tails almost cut in half! If anyone is wondering why there was a Nimrod at Finningley (which you're probably not) it's what they trained AWACs flight crews - Finningley became a training base - and then add Nimrod to the list of aircraft my dad has worked on.
An airliner landed here yesterday (at the airport - yes, we have an airport! ) that suffered a bird strike to the tail. They had to replace the whole leading section of the tail because of a massive dint in it.
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07-18-2005, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by plan_D An airliner landed here yesterday (at the airport - yes, we have an airport! ) that suffered a bird strike to the tail. They had to replace the whole leading section of the tail because of a massive dint in it. | A number of years ago here at Mountain Home AFB, there was a F-4 Phantom that had a bird srike which destroyed the canopy and severly injured the pilot. The RIO managed to land the aircraft safely without throttle control but it was a very close thing.
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07-18-2005, 05:12 PM
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Country: | They test every single airliner windscreen by firing a pigeon at it at 400 knots with a gas powered cannon. If it cracks - the windscreen fails, just to avoid any thing like that ever happening.
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07-18-2005, 07:50 PM
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#89 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by plan_D They test every single airliner windscreen by firing a pigeon at it at 400 knots with a gas powered cannon. If it cracks - the windscreen fails, just to avoid any thing like that ever happening. | STORY-TIME: When I worked for Lockheed, I used to audit purchase orders for procurement requirements and someone was buying 2 dozen chickens, so naturally I question this....
The engineer who wanted these items told me they were for testing of a new L1011 windshield configuration being offered to operators as an optional service bulletin, so naturally they had to used the chicken for the bird strike testing.
The first round of testing didn't go to well. The company hired by Lockheed to conduct the test used an old Locomotive as a test platform for the newly designed windshield. (Apparently the dimensions of the locomotives windshield was similar to the 1011s). When they fired the first "bird" at the windshield, it crashed through the plexiglass and frame, broke the "pilot's seat back off the rest of the chair and went through the bulkhead behind the "pilot." It turned out the chickens were frozen, no one told the test engineers to defrost them for the tests! Believe it or not these brainiacks did it again and destroyed both windshield test assemblies before they realized something was wrong!  
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07-18-2005, 07:56 PM
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#90 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | Ah, engineers! They can tell you the square root of a pickle jar, but damned if they know how to get the lid off! | |
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