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07-19-2005, 03:16 AM
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#91 | | Master of Ewes
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that story's brilliant.........
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07-19-2005, 10:02 AM
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#92 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass
that story's brilliant......... | The whole program was put 2 months behind schedule because of the frozen chickens! 
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07-19-2005, 10:34 AM
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#93 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | Perhaps they where trying to cover all the bases and thinking of birds that could fly too fifty thousand feet then suffer from frost bite.
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07-19-2005, 10:38 AM
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#94 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | I had heard that story before, but with a slightly different twist. It's funny either way! So the moral of the stroy, FBJ is while flying, avoid the frozen chickens! 
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07-19-2005, 10:46 AM
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#95 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | 3 things I lay claim to being involved with in my aviation career....
1. The frozen chicken
2. the $700.00 P-3 toliet seat
3. B-2 #5 AKA "Christine"
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07-19-2005, 01:34 PM
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#96 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Nonskimmer If the crew had been hit, how would they explain the cloud of feathers? | That is why I was laughing. They obvioulsy were so scared that they did not even think it could have been a bird.
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07-20-2005, 10:35 AM
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#97 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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07-20-2005, 10:52 AM
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#98 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | The chickhen story spread like wildfire after I heard about it.....
The P-3 toilet seat was a one piece fiberglass fire-resistant assembly. It was a seat and cover combined, about the size of a medium size TV. It actually costs $670.00 with a 10% profit margin. When the media got a hold of this story they so twisted it around it was criminal. Lockheed actually overcharged the government about $35.00
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07-20-2005, 01:25 PM
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#99 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | The companies overcharge the government all the time though. A bolt that costs 10 cents to make they sell for 10 dollars.
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07-20-2005, 03:08 PM
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#100 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | Yep! I heard a story where Boeing wanted to charge the Air Force $800.00 for a kit of washers used to put seats on the KC-135. An enterprising mechanic drilled holes in pennys and used them for the washers!
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07-20-2005, 03:11 PM
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#101 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | It really is crazy. The troop seats in the blackhawk cost over a hundred dollars I could go to th store buy the same material and make it myself and save the army about 50 bucks.
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07-20-2005, 03:37 PM
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#102 | | Senior Member
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| I agree the price is sometimes way to high but something to consider
I spent 3 years converting the production line from the mid '90s mid sized Chevy cars to the '98+ models. Total program cost from design to production was over a Billion dollars. Just designing the tools and converting the plant cost over 100 million and took 3 1/2 years (the first 3 involved 1 production line installed, tested and developed the proper tool configurations) with as many as 1,000 people on it at one time on the demo/install alone.
The tremendos cost is the work behind the product and the infrastructure.
I'm sure I just stated what you already know but interestingly I heard once that things got cut back on a few programs about 20% (in the '80s) and the contractors managed just fine. 
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07-20-2005, 03:40 PM
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#103 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | You are pretty much correct but it still could be cut down.
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07-20-2005, 03:41 PM
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#104 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | But that is an internal expense to deliver a product wmaxt. Where the thievery lies is in the spares market. When a government contractor ups spares prices 1000% well, they should be shot!
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07-20-2005, 03:42 PM
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#105 | | Der Crewchief
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