 | What do you think of the bell p-39 was it a good dogfighter| Aviation Discuss What do you think of the bell p-39 was it a good dogfighter in the World War II - Aviation forums; Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ
I found on www.zenowarbirdvideos.com a sample P-39Q W&B chart. This aircraft ... |
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06-21-2005, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ I found on www.zenowarbirdvideos.com a sample P-39Q W&B chart. This aircraft calcualtes horizontal AND vertical CG. The page is difficult to read but it looks like the horizontal CG envelope is about 1 inch (133.56/ 134.22 from what I could read) | Thats terrible.   
Just looking at the chart and from comments made earlier taking out the armor is probably benificial in all regaurds (except getting shot in the back).
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06-21-2005, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ I found on www.zenowarbirdvideos.com a sample P-39Q W&B chart. This aircraft calcualtes horizontal AND vertical CG. The page is difficult to read but it looks like the horizontal CG envelope is about 1 inch (133.56/ 134.22 from what I could read) | Thats terrible.
Just looking at the chart and from comments made earlier taking out the armor is probably benificial in all regaurds (except getting shot in the back).
wmaxt |  - MY GOD! HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL CG - WORSE THAN A HELICOPTER! And if I had to fly this in combat, I think its safer to risk getting shot in the back!
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06-21-2005, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by "FLYBOYJ - MY GOD! HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL CG - WORSE THAN A HELICOPTER! And if I had to fly this in combat, I think its safer to risk getting shot in the back! | Yup 
Was the King Cobra any better?
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06-21-2005, 04:26 PM
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06-21-2005, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ - MY GOD! HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL CG - WORSE THAN A HELICOPTER! And if I had to fly this in combat, I think its safer to risk getting shot in the back! | No ****! 
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06-21-2005, 05:07 PM
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06-21-2005, 05:59 PM
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06-21-2005, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet I bet, plus to be a racer they removed all that armour and uneeded stuff and that probably screwed it up real bad. | If they didn't watch what they were doing, it could of. But as wmaxt said earlier, it might of helped things! 
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06-21-2005, 06:36 PM
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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06-24-2005, 01:52 PM
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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06-25-2005, 01:55 AM
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06-25-2005, 08:53 AM
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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06-25-2005, 10:00 AM
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Country: | On a smaller but similar scale - When I was learning to fly I was in a Cessna 152. When doing stalls in this particular aircraft, if not careful it would snap over and spin, even with the proper rudder inputs. At first my instructor thought it was me. Later on we discovered that this aircraft survived a mid-air collision and the left wing asymmetry (the slight twist in the wing) was off causing the aircraft to stall differently. There is nothing more scary in flying an aircraft when you don't know how its going to behave in a stall!
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06-25-2005, 10:26 AM
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