 | WHAT "DUD" WOULD YOU FLY?| Aviation Discuss WHAT "DUD" WOULD YOU FLY? in the World War II - Aviation forums; i wanna say the lizzie but it wasn't really a dud was it............. |
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06-04-2005, 11:46 AM
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#46 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | i wanna say the lizzie but it wasn't really a dud was it..........
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06-04-2005, 12:12 PM
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#47 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country:  | The Lizzie was a sleeper. In another life she would of been a fighter, no wait a bomber, no wait an attack aircraft, no wait......
Know what I mean? 
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06-04-2005, 01:05 PM
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#48 | | Master of Ewes
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06-04-2005, 02:48 PM
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| The Lizzie was very good at what she did and therefore I don't think you could ever call it a dud.
Am I right in thinking that the first german plane shot down by the RAF in WW2 was shot down by a lysander. | |
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06-04-2005, 03:58 PM
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Country: | That's correct. It also got itself involved doing many things that it wasn't intended for. Light bomber, ground attack, and somethimes fighter, and although sometimes mauled by enemy fighters, once in awhile it did things that surprised all, including downing other aircraft!
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06-04-2005, 04:27 PM
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Country:  | It only had 2x .303's in the wheel spats though didnt it?
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06-04-2005, 05:01 PM
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Country: | It also had a flexible mg at the observer's station.
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06-04-2005, 05:04 PM
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Country: | Yes but for use as a fighter? 2x .303's wont do much 
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06-04-2005, 05:10 PM
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Country: | You said it! Somtimes it got lucky. I posted an article about an EAF Lysander downing 2 IAF Spitfires in 1948!
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06-04-2005, 06:04 PM
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| Brewster Buffalo for me. It did a good job in Finnish service.
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06-04-2005, 10:02 PM
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| It's not clear to me what constitutes a "dud" for the purposes of this discussion. I figure the FM-2 Wildcat would have to qualify though in light of the P-40 making the list.
For some reason (I really can't put my finger on it), I find a certain elegance to the F-4 that transcends its, ahem ... mediocre performance. 
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06-04-2005, 11:01 PM
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Country: | Performance wasn't that good, but it did one heck of a good job with the USN before the Hellcat came onto the scene. BUt I agree, it did have a certain elegance. To see one fly is great. The RAF Martlett version was the hands down show favorite at Camarillo last year.
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06-05-2005, 06:37 AM
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Country: | I'd have liked to fly a Stirling, the only reason it was dislike was because it didn't have a high enough ceiling (the Air Ministry wanted it to fit into it's 100foot wide hangers so they shortened the wings). Apparently it was very manouverable for a bomber
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06-05-2005, 06:51 AM
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#59 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | yes all RAF heavies were renowned for their manouverability, many pilots saying they handled more like fighters than four engined bombers, but yes the stirling must be counted as a dud, and i believe the Marlet was french was it not??
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06-05-2005, 08:17 AM
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Country: | Ive always like the Stirling. My favourite of the RAF heavies.
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