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03-22-2005, 09:51 AM
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#136 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________  US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | 
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03-22-2005, 09:52 AM
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#137 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | Okay, here's one, what if the type XXI U-Boat was operational in 1942/3?
Would the convoys still have got across the Atlantic?
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03-22-2005, 10:00 AM
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#138 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | Probably... Given the right strategy... U-Boats are vulnerable to air attack... so if the convoys would have been supported by air they might have had a chance... From the air they would have been easily spotted, and sinking to avoid detection they wouldn't have been able to engage de convoy... My guess...
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03-22-2005, 10:05 AM
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#139 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I think it would have made an impact at first but eventually the allies would have found a way to counter it and the convoys would once again come across the Atlantic. I think that in order to stop the convoys and win the Battle of the Atlantic, the Germans would have needed to have a larger surface fleet to accompany there U-boots. They needed for Schlachtschiffen, Panzerschiffen, and they needed to have Flugzeugtraegern from the very beginning.
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03-22-2005, 10:35 AM
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#140 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Sorry to ask, but what do Schlacht and Flugzeugtraedern mean in English?
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03-22-2005, 10:42 AM
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Country: | The seccond one meand Aircraft Carrier... I don't realy know the first...sorry
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03-22-2005, 11:21 AM
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#142 | | Senior Member
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03-22-2005, 02:28 PM
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#143 | | Senior Member
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| Flugzeugträger = Aircraft Carrier
Schlachtschiff = Battleship
Panzerschiff = Pocket Battleship (not litterally)
With the given technology in 1942 (remove the Radar-equipment and the guided TVb-Zaunkönig-II torpedoes) I´m pretty sure that type XXI could rule the Atlantic. However, it is silly to seriously think the germans could field such an advanced boat that early. They were not rushed into action (unlike the jets) and thus only a few smaller type XXIII saw action at the end of ww2.
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03-23-2005, 03:38 AM
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#144 | | Senior Member
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03-23-2005, 07:26 AM
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#145 | | Der Crewchief
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I agree the XXI would not have been as good had it been rushed into service.
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03-23-2005, 01:04 PM
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#146 | | Master of Ewes
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03-23-2005, 01:11 PM
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#147 | | He who does not skim
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03-23-2005, 01:39 PM
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#148 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | well isn't that nice............
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03-23-2005, 02:01 PM
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#149 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | No actually he asked how many people speak German here and I said I speak German and live in Ansbach, Germany. However Lanc that is what I was thinking.
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03-24-2005, 05:48 AM
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