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Old 04-06-2005, 11:18 AM   #211
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The 109T looks great in blue and yellow.
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Old 04-06-2005, 11:30 AM   #212
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i wonder if she'd keep those colours
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Old 04-06-2005, 11:33 AM   #213
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Look at the first two letters; 'TK'. plan_D should have that one in his airforce
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Old 04-06-2005, 11:41 AM   #214
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Old 04-07-2005, 04:15 PM   #215
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i wonder if she'd keep those colours
Actually they were painted with regular camoflage schemes when they were scent to Norway.
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fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

"wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2"

"ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life"
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Shame. It looks great in blue.
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Old 04-07-2005, 05:01 PM   #218
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I agree.
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fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

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"ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life"
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Old 04-08-2005, 03:36 AM   #219
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i wonder what the sea camoflague would look like though.........
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Pink with yellow spots, with any luck
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It would have been just like you saw it there, blue and yellow. However I think it would have evolved more into a Gull Grey color.
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http://www.centennialofflight.gov/es...ettner/HE6.htm

Flettner received a small production contract from the German Navy in 1938, and the aircraft made its first flight in May 1939. The aircraft proved impressively controllable in flight and was a major improvement over the Focke-Achgelis designs.

In 1941, the Navy conducted an evaluation using two fighter planes to stage a mock attack on a Fl 265. The fighters could not hold the agile craft in their gunsights.
Six of his Fl 265’s were evaluated by the Navy, spotting from warships and submarines. They proved to be remarkably successful in all conditions. A FW 190 and Me 109 tried for twenty minutes to shoot down one…. with camera guns but not one hit was recorded!
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpo...ers/fl-282.htm

In 1941/1942 the Kriegsmarine used a Fl 282 for tests on board of the CL Köln . With a landing platform mounted on turret Bruno, several operational patterns were successfully tested. The Kolibri proved to be very maneuverable, reliable and a stable platform even at bad weather conditions.

http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmari...ipbased/fl282/

In 1940, Flettner debuted an improved version designated the Fl 282 Kolibri (hummingbird). The Kolibri could fly at almost 90 miles per hour (145 kilometers per hour), could reach 13,000 feet (3,962 meters), and could carry an 800-pound (383-kilogram) load.

A Siemens-Halske Sh14A engine providing 150 to 160 horsepower (112 to 119 kilowatts) powered the Kolibri Fl 282.

Flettner designed his craft to carry two people, a pilot and an observer.

Imagine if a 1,175 hp DB601 engine had been fitted. It could probably carry 8 people (or 16 with two engines).

There could have been transport versions for troops and tanks, and armoured attack versions armed with cannons, machine guns and rockets.


These could have been produced in the 100s in 1940 and used to land invasion forces of 1000s of troops in some remote area in the USSR to prepare and defend airfields to fly in more troops and tanks with the Me 323 Gigant http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpo...m/me-323-i.htm

This force could be armed with these
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/ir.htm
This would lead to ownage during night battles.
When this force was big enough it could have attacked Moscow from another direction simultaneously with the main German army (if Hitler had launched Operation Barbarossa in April as originally planned).
This could have led to the fall of Moscow.

(However, thankfully Hitler was an idiot and invaded Yugoslavia, delaying Barbarossa by 2 crucial months. The prescence of Axis troops in Yugoslavia also made Soviet military leaders nervous, but it seems Stalin would not believe that Hitler would attack the huge USSR.)

Eventually the whole Soviet Union is defeated and its factories and minerals are used to makes 10s of 1000s of Panthers, Tigers and aircraft, including jet aircraft.
The UK is easily defeated, and Australia is invaded and captured.
This leads to a cold war type stalemate between the Axis powers and the US.

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Imagine if a 1,175 hp DB601 engine had been fitted. It could probably carry 8 people (or 16 with two engines).

There could have been transport versions for troops and tanks, and armoured attack versions armed with cannons, machine guns and rockets.
i think this is optermistic even for the germans............
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Imagine if a 1,175 hp DB601 engine had been fitted. It could probably carry 8 people (or 16 with two engines).
I doubt this would have been possible. Maybe a radial engine but not a DB601.


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The UK is easily defeated, and Australia is invaded and captured.
This leads to a cold war type stalemate between the Axis powers and the US.
I doubt the British would have given up easily adn even with all the firepower you suggested there still was not eneogh landing craft to conduct the invasion of England nor eneogh logostics. In this scenerio that you presented I could see the British Isles being taken however not as easily as you say.
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Yeah, I meant a reverse D-Day type operation, possibly on an even greater scale. Hitler would have had all the resources of Europe whereas the Allies had the resources of the US and had to transport everything by ship to the UK.
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