What If...?

wmaxt · 12-29-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

At the time of the Last Crusade. There was only one flying Bf-109 and it was a Bf-109G and it crashed a few years ago. It was the only "real" Bf-109 that was still flying. There were several Israeli and Czech ones and they are all gone now also. As a matter of fact there are only 2 more Bf-109's being restored to flying condition right now.

There is a Bf-109G in Medford Oregone that it is both restored and flyable. It even has a DB engine in it.

wmaxt

pbfoot · 12-29-2005, 05:54 PM

there is a 109 e in niagara that doesn't fly enough to please me

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 12-30-2005, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wmaxt

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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

At the time of the Last Crusade. There was only one flying Bf-109 and it was a Bf-109G and it crashed a few years ago. It was the only "real" Bf-109 that was still flying. There were several Israeli and Czech ones and they are all gone now also. As a matter of fact there are only 2 more Bf-109's being restored to flying condition right now.

There is a Bf-109G in Medford Oregone that it is both restored and flyable. It even has a DB engine in it.

wmaxt

Yeah there are now several flying Bf-109s, I was just saying at the time of the filming of the Last Crusade there was just one.

MP-Willow · 01-06-2006, 01:13 PM

In most cases the planes needed now are not available. But you can use CGI to reproduce them. But that has its own set of problums, so we are just stuck. Unless we all want to use RC aircraft or just build new full size frames.

the lancaster kicks ass · 01-06-2006, 04:07 PM

just use RC aircraft, what's the difference between a full sized plane at 4,000ft and a 1/8 scale plane at 500ft

CurzonDax · 01-07-2006, 11:57 AM

My problem with RC in movies is then you get the Stuka scene in the Battle of Britian or it looks like Gozilla movie. But still at the time of Last Crusade the technology was available to make a special effect 109, CGI was not quite there yet.

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DerAdlerIstGelandet · 01-08-2006, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CurzonDax

My problem with RC in movies is then you get the Stuka scene in the Battle of Britian or it looks like Gozilla movie. But still at the time of Last Crusade the technology was available to make a special effect 109, CGI was not quite there yet.

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With CGI not there yet, how else were you going to do it, in special effects other than using 108s? I think they did the best they could do.

CurzonDax · 01-09-2006, 12:19 AM

I guess. Maybe I am being too picky. But only one year seperated Last Crusade and Memphis Belle and in the 'Belle the used 1112s.

Still wot da 'ell brought us to this point and what does all of this have to do with "what if"? (as I beat this dead horse)

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DerAdlerIstGelandet · 01-11-2006, 05:16 AM

Probably did not have the money to get 1112s.

CurzonDax · 01-11-2006, 10:15 AM

Spielberg with no money for a budget? Thats like saying the Pope's not catholic. Okay point taken. Also after doing a little research this part of the film was filmed in Romania, logistics probably were involved too.

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DerAdlerIstGelandet · 01-12-2006, 02:10 AM

Logistics and Spielberg does not fork the money out for the film the studio and producing company do so.

CurzonDax · 01-12-2006, 09:15 AM

Also point taken, I am just being picky. Still for a amature historian it must of have rankled Steven's bones not to have a 109 or even a 1112.

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DerAdlerIstGelandet · 01-12-2006, 09:32 AM

I am sure it did. I am sure he would have wanted to be as accurate as possible.

Twitch · 02-07-2006, 12:23 PM

Well one of the great things about the state of CGI today is that we could conceivable enjoy a combat scene with the Go 229 and a P-80 and not notice much, if any, bogus-ness. I don't care what planes they use it's cool to see the "fly" again.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 02-10-2006, 01:41 PM

That I can agree with.