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04-21-2006, 09:41 PM
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#526 | | Senior Member
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Country: | The japanese would not have had the oil and rubber resources without taking over american-controlled ocean territory. If not taking complete control, they would have left themselves vulnerable. Either way, the Greater Asia Co-prosperity Sphere included American territory.
Even if Japan had defeated China, they wouldn't have been able to support a remote air force strong enough to impact Russia's production capability in a strategic sense. |
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05-18-2006, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks *** the Graf Spee was completed and she was a pocket battleship i believe, the Graf Zepplin was the uncompleted carrier, but i don't think it'd make much difference, we'd have sent allot of power to meet her in the atlantic if she even made the break out......... | I don't recall the Germans having a GZ battleship, the only GZ that I can remember was the airship, maybe I was too young at the time
I do remember the airship.
The Graf Zeppelin predated the Hindenberg. which was lost due to a fire, I believe in 1936 or 37.they were airships . No airship would have fared well in WW2, they would have been very easy to destroy. They were used by the Germans in WW1, they had very limited success
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05-18-2006, 02:57 PM
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#528 | | He who does not skim
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Originally Posted by jhor9 The Graf Zeppelin predated the Hindenberg.they were airships . | Graf Zeppelin was also the name of an uncompleted German aircraft carrier, built between 1936 and 1938. |
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05-19-2006, 08:07 AM
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#529 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | As nonskimmer said it was an aircraft carrier that was launched but never completed. It was taken by the Russians and sank later. Here are some pics.
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05-19-2006, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jhor9 .......No airship would have fared well in WW2, they would have been very easy to destroy. They were used by the Germans in WW1, they had very limited success | The USN used them for coastal anti sub patrols.
Here's I started a thread of the blimp hangers that still exist at the decommisioned Tustin MCAS. http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/avi...ghlight=tustin (The Tustin Blimp Base)
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05-19-2006, 09:47 AM
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#531 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | They were limited in what they could do but they still had uses as in the case of the US Navy. I really dont think anyone had the idea of using them as bombers in WW2 except for maybe the Japs who did try and bomb the west coast.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life"
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05-26-2006, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet They were limited in what they could do but they still had uses as in the case of the US Navy. I really dont think anyone had the idea of using them as bombers in WW2 except for maybe the Japs who did try and bomb the west coast. | The Japanese launched thousands of balloon bombs at North American. They thought it would be possible to set the forests of the Pacific Northwest on fire and cause a lot of damage. They did start a few forest fires and a small number of people were killed by fragmentation bombs while examining crashed balloons. There was a plan to include chemical and biological weapons as part of the payload, but as far as I know they never did. The furthest one of the ricepaper balloons got was over the Rockies into Alberta. |
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05-27-2006, 04:51 AM
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#533 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" |
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05-27-2006, 05:21 AM
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05-28-2006, 01:29 AM
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05-28-2006, 06:15 AM
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05-28-2006, 06:49 AM
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" |
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05-28-2006, 03:53 PM
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