Aircraft of World War II - Warbird Forums

What of the Me 410?

Aviation Discuss What of the Me 410? in the World War II - Aviation forums; The second pic shows one a/c from the same squadron, the purpose was to show that not ALL aircraft ...


Go Back   Aircraft of World War II - Warbird Forums > World War II - Aviation > Aviation

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 01-25-2007, 07:28 PM   #106
Senior Member
 
CharlesBronson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cordoba - Argentina
Posts: 2,249
Country:
The second pic shows one a/c from the same squadron, the purpose was to show that not ALL aircraft had the MG-131 removed (in fact I think that those were only a few)


Some combat histories of the Ekdo 25














Eduard Tratt:





Sources:

Me-410 in combat, Krzystoff Janowicz/ Kagero.
__________________
CharlesBronson is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2007, 08:11 PM   #107
Senior Member
 
Soren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 5,031
The Me-410 on the first pic has still got its defensive armament, you just can't see it for the wing.

I hae never heard that the defensive armament was stripped - sounds odd.
__________________

We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
- Adolf Galland
Soren is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2007, 09:48 PM   #108
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 114
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesBronson View Post
Yes , the Me-410B variants with the DB-603G 1900 hp engines. (without the 50 mm cannon off course)
Your somewhat wrong here as the DB603G never saw production. The Me 410 used DB 603A or the DB603AA with better altitude performance (probably via larger supercharger).
Denniss is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2007, 09:56 PM   #109
Senior Member
 
CharlesBronson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cordoba - Argentina
Posts: 2,249
Country:
Thanks, is so hard to find a reliable source, I ve taken from this:





The lack of MGs is not well apreciate in that pic, but there is others in the Squadron Signal book, I try to get those.
__________________
CharlesBronson is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2007, 10:09 PM   #110
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,260
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soren View Post
The Me-410 on the first pic has still got its defensive armament, you just can't see it for the wing.

I hae never heard that the defensive armament was stripped - sounds odd.
Soren right...that´s precisely why i said on my last posting: "while it seems that in fact..." -regarding the presence of the MG 131s in the Hornisse shown in Charlies pic-. Interesting comment, it could be indeed possible the photo was taken from such an angle the wing hid the machine guns...a matter of milimiters maybe...
__________________
In a national survey, 92% of the French people believed they are not ugly: 93% of them were wrong.

Last edited by Udet : 01-25-2007 at 10:12 PM.
Udet is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2007, 10:45 PM   #111
Senior Member
 
CharlesBronson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cordoba - Argentina
Posts: 2,249
Country:
There was some Me-410 without that armament, I have not the book right now but I had see it.
__________________
CharlesBronson is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2007, 07:43 AM   #112
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Canterbury, NZ
Posts: 75
Country:
The German Destroyer concept is probably best presented in the machine they never had, the Mosquito.
By the time the 410 was ready, it was too late, it was no longer required as the hunter, but merely the prey, as the range of Allied single engine escorts increased.
Surely, the concept of multi eng escort fighters was a failure.
Although, before the outbreak of war, it was the only way to provide long range bomber protection.
YakFlyer is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2007, 06:50 PM   #113
Senior Member
 
CharlesBronson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cordoba - Argentina
Posts: 2,249
Country:
Dont think so, the mosquito was designed as a fast bomber and then adapted to other roles.

The Me-210/410 family was designed from the start to be a multirole "schnellkampf" or fast battle aircraft, wich involves divebombing, horizontal bombing, escort, fighter and recce missions.

Night intruder Me-410.

__________________

Last edited by CharlesBronson : 01-26-2007 at 06:54 PM.
CharlesBronson is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2007, 06:33 PM   #114
Senior Member
 
CharlesBronson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cordoba - Argentina
Posts: 2,249
Country:
This is firepower: Me-410B with 2x 13mm MG plus 6 x MG-151 20mm, 2 in the nose, 2 in the bomb bay and two more in ventral emplacement. Some aircraft also carried 4 o 6 210mmm rocket launchers.

__________________
CharlesBronson is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2007, 09:29 PM   #115
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,260
Any similarities?

The nose of the A-10 has always reminded me the Me 410. The nose of the A-10 seems of course somewhat more streamlined, but we talk about a plane that was designed ~30 years after the Luftwaffe´s Hornisse.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg A-10 2.JPG (21.0 KB, 88 views)
File Type: jpg Me 410.JPG (4.5 KB, 90 views)
__________________
In a national survey, 92% of the French people believed they are not ugly: 93% of them were wrong.

Last edited by Udet : 01-28-2007 at 09:34 PM.
Udet is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2007, 09:40 PM   #116
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,260
More to compare...
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Me 410-3.JPG (15.0 KB, 90 views)
File Type: jpg A-10-3.JPG (26.1 KB, 89 views)
__________________
In a national survey, 92% of the French people believed they are not ugly: 93% of them were wrong.
Udet is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2007, 09:55 PM   #117
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,260
And...
Attached Images
File Type: jpg A-10-II.JPG (5.4 KB, 88 views)
__________________
In a national survey, 92% of the French people believed they are not ugly: 93% of them were wrong.
Udet is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2007, 01:24 PM   #118
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 6
Is this Me410's one of leading-edge slats or flap?
and who can tell me what's functions in Me410?
many thanks


Last edited by donkeyking : 01-29-2007 at 05:19 PM.
donkeyking is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2007, 06:53 PM   #119
Senior Member
 
CharlesBronson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cordoba - Argentina
Posts: 2,249
Country:
And what about this, it dwarfed the 30mm gun...




Sorry Donkey I cannot see your picture. The functioning of the slats were very simple, at low speeds it deployed by his own weight an at high speed the aerodinamic pressure pushed it backward inside the wing leading edge.
__________________
CharlesBronson is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2007, 08:02 PM   #120
Senior Member
 
CharlesBronson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cordoba - Argentina
Posts: 2,249
Country:
And for those who still have doubts... ( people of little faith )


__________________
CharlesBronson is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.1.0
   

AVIATION TOP 100 - www.avitop.com Avitop.com


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93