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Aviation Discuss What protoype do you wish had seen service in WW2? in the World War II - Aviation forums; Originally Posted by DerAdler How effective would that be in WW2 anyhow? It was hard to find via radar, so ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAdler
    How effective would that be in WW2 anyhow?
    It was hard to find via radar, so would be good as a nightfighter or bomber.

    It very fast and carried 2x Mk108 and could carry (IIRC) an internal 1000lb bomb, also 2 seater.

    It was also made mainly of wood and so easy to buid.

    I think it could also glide?


    Marshall_Stack:

    How about Howard Hughes' "Spruce Goose"?
    Couldn't get off the ground... The biggest plane that never flew.

    Regarding the XP-56, what advantage does an aircraft of magnesium material offer?
    Aargh, elektrolite!

    I suggest you look up the He-70:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_70



    Quote Originally Posted by PlanD
    On a recon plane it's not too bad though.
    It needs to be well covered in paint, and can fail completely like carbon-fibre.

    A Jaguar racer was killed when one of his wheels crumbled.


    I suppose my best bomber is the Barnes Wallis high-altitude 'Mega-Wellington', it looked a bit like a Ju-390.
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    Even if the Spruce Goose would have worked it would not have been practical. Too big and too easy of a target.


    fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

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    what prototype do you wish you had seen service in WW2?

    Quote Originally Posted by syscom3
    The B29 engines were made from magnesium, and when they burned, it was spectacular.
    I always wondered why the engine nacelles burned so easy. Everyday you learn something new every day.

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    Yeap and that is the great thing about this site, when the serious members here post things like that. It does not matter how knowledgable you are, you never stop learning things.


    fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet
    Yeap and that is the great thing about this site, when the serious members here post things like that. It does not matter how knowledgable you are, you never stop learning things.
    Very true Alder that is why I am here


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    I am not so sure that making an airplane out of wood is easier than making it out of metal, aside from availability of materials. And the Spruce Goose did fly, granted not for very far or very long, but it did fly.


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    Yes it flew for less than 30 sec did it not?


    fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

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    The first Mosquitoes were made from wood.

    Its better to have an
    Army of deer being led by a lion,
    rather an Army of Lions being led by a deer
    ...

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    ALL mosquitos were made from wood

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    I see you got that one out before I did.


    fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

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    Vast difference between using wood for a small 2 seat airplane, than a leviathan like the spruce goose.
    "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

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    Spruce has the strongest weight/strength of most materials, rivalling or even beating carbon fibre IIRC!

    Glues can also be stronger than rivetting or welding.

    I think the worst material is the corrugated iron on German bombers.
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    Which bombers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzpanzer
    Glues can also be stronger than rivetting or welding.
    Not so - weld a piece of 7075 aluminum and heat treat it - it could have a tensile strength of up to 100,000 ksi. The only piece of wood you'll find that strong will be in a petrified forest

    Now if you're talking about light alloy aluminums (6061) and pop rivets, yes a wood glue structure would be stronger, but light alloys are usually used for non-structral components.

    Wood structures will not be stronger than 2024T-3 skins riveted on to 2024T-6 or 7075 main structural members, especially if 2117DD "Ice box" rivets are used - these are kept cold and actually work harden when driven.

    The O-2 Kingfisher actually had a good portion of it's primary structure welded because of the catapult launching it will be subjected to.....

    Quote Originally Posted by schwarzpanzer
    I think the worst material is the corrugated iron on German bombers.
    Corrugated structure is one of the stronger aircraft assembly structures. The B-17s wings were corrugated with sheet metal riveted over the corrugations

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    I couldn't be sure, but I think the bigger Junkers; Ju290/390 and Ju57(?)that FG plane, in the end of Where Eagles Dare. There were others?
    Like WW2 tanks?

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