Whats more velnerable P-38 or P-47 in ground attack - Aircraft of World War II

Jank · 12-04-2005, 07:55 PM

In a ground attack role, which would be safer to be in whenm there's incoming flak, 20mm and small arms fire.?

syscom3 · 12-04-2005, 08:39 PM

P47 was probably the safest.

carpenoctem1689 · 12-04-2005, 08:56 PM

P-47D i would say. I like the radial engine, even though the P-38 has the dual-engine layout. The P-47 seems like it has a safe cockpit to me, with the more width between the pilot and the bottom of the airframe, offering more protection. Also the P-47 has better side/down view, so you can better avoid a threat because you can see it.

pbfoot · 12-04-2005, 09:02 PM

tough question twin engines with liquid cooled engines with a smaller profile or radial with with larger profile i like the 38 because of smaller frontal profile

lesofprimus · 12-04-2005, 09:03 PM

P-47 without a doubt...

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 12-04-2005, 09:05 PM

I personally dont think it is much of a difficutl decision. The P-47 was designed for it, the P-38 was not. The P-47 was a better ground attack aircraft and I think history has proven this.

syscom3 · 12-05-2005, 12:41 AM

The P47 was designed as a high altitude fighter. The ground attack role was not a consideration when it was still on the drawing board.

The P38 was designed as a bomber interceptor. Again, the ground attack role wasnt even a consideration.

evangilder · 12-05-2005, 12:52 AM

That may be so but we have the luxury of looking back in time at what the P-47 did. I would go with the jug as well for ground attack..

FLYBOYJ · 12-05-2005, 01:59 AM

Guys, remember flyboy's #1 rule - Glycol Sucks!!!!

V-1710 · 12-05-2005, 02:57 AM

I would rather be in something without a radiator. But, air cooled radial engines do have oil coolers, and a hit in the oil cooler is just as bad.

Gnomey · 12-05-2005, 04:42 AM

P-47 for me hands down.

cheddar cheese · 12-05-2005, 12:26 PM

P-38. But im biased like that

Besides a P-38 can fly perfectly well on one engine.

Gnomey · 12-05-2005, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheddar cheese

P-38. But im biased like that

Besides a P-38 can fly perfectly well on one engine.

So can the P-47...

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 12-05-2005, 01:32 PM

I really dont think there is much of an argument to this one. History speaks for itself and its the P-47.

the lancaster kicks ass · 12-05-2005, 01:39 PM

also if the plane is **** down i'd rather be in the -47, built like a **** brick house and has a skid for just such an emergency........

12-04-2005, 08:39 PM	#2
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,277	P47 was probably the safest. __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

12-04-2005, 09:03 PM	#5
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,490	P-47 without a doubt... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

12-04-2005, 09:05 PM	#6
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	I personally dont think it is much of a difficutl decision. The P-47 was designed for it, the P-38 was not. The P-47 was a better ground attack aircraft and I think history has proven this. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

12-05-2005, 12:41 AM	#7
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,277	The P47 was designed as a high altitude fighter. The ground attack role was not a consideration when it was still on the drawing board. The P38 was designed as a bomber interceptor. Again, the ground attack role wasnt even a consideration. __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

12-05-2005, 12:52 AM	#8
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 14,804	That may be so but we have the luxury of looking back in time at what the P-47 did. I would go with the jug as well for ground attack.. __________________ http://www.vg-photo.com For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

12-04-2005, 07:55 PM	#1
Jank Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 679	Whats more velnerable P-38 or P-47 in ground attack In a ground attack role, which would be safer to be in whenm there's incoming flak, 20mm and small arms fire.?

12-04-2005, 08:56 PM	#3
carpenoctem1689 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 286	P-47D i would say. I like the radial engine, even though the P-38 has the dual-engine layout. The P-47 seems like it has a safe cockpit to me, with the more width between the pilot and the bottom of the airframe, offering more protection. Also the P-47 has better side/down view, so you can better avoid a threat because you can see it.

12-04-2005, 09:02 PM	#4
pbfoot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: niagara falls Posts: 5,585	tough question twin engines with liquid cooled engines with a smaller profile or radial with with larger profile i like the 38 because of smaller frontal profile

12-05-2005, 01:59 AM	#9
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,049	Guys, remember flyboy's #1 rule - Glycol Sucks!!!! __________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"

12-05-2005, 02:57 AM	#10
V-1710 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 163	I would rather be in something without a radiator. But, air cooled radial engines do have oil coolers, and a hit in the oil cooler is just as bad.

12-05-2005, 04:42 AM	#11
Gnomey "World Traveller" Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Royal Deeside/St Andrews, Scotland, UK Posts: 15,217	P-47 for me hands down. __________________ "Success is not Final, Failure is not Fatal, it is the Courage to Continue that Counts" Sir Winston Churchill "To him the People of the World Largely owe the Freedom and Liberties they Enjoy Today" Enscription on Hugh Dowding's (AOC Fighter Command 1936-40) statue in London WW2 Talk: A WW2 Discussion Forum My Photo Collections on Flickr

12-05-2005, 12:26 PM	#12
cheddar cheese Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England Posts: 20,387	P-38. But im biased like that Besides a P-38 can fly perfectly well on one engine.

12-05-2005, 01:32 PM	#14
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	I really dont think there is much of an argument to this one. History speaks for itself and its the P-47. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

12-05-2005, 01:39 PM	#15
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	also if the plane is ** down i'd rather be in the -47, built like a ** brick house and has a skid for just such an emergency........ __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

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