 | When an Enemy Was a Friend| Aviation Discuss When an Enemy Was a Friend in the World War II - Aviation forums; Originally Posted by Matt308
Hmmm. Wonder how accurate that is. Specifically if that vertical stab was that damaged. If so, ... |
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12-04-2006, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt308  Hmmm. Wonder how accurate that is. Specifically if that vertical stab was that damaged. If so, that likely took some real flying to control yaw and bank angle with that engine out. | There's still plenty of surface area on the vertical stab and believe it or not you don't need that much rudder to fly a large multi engine aircraft. Directional control can also be achieved by adjusting the throttles on the running engines, even though the text said he had only one fully functioning engine...
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The fully functioning engine has got to be the port outboard. You could get more than two engines of full thrust if the remaining engines combined can generate more than one engine power. Also, the inboard starboard needs to be the most powerful of the two engines. | |
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ There's still plenty of surface area on the vertical stab and believe it or not you don't need that much rudder to fly a large multi engine aircraft. Directional control can also be achieved by adjusting the throttles on the running engines, even though the text said he had only one fully functioning engine... | You're getting me excited to start flying the TC-12!
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Originally Posted by mkloby You're getting me excited to start flying the TC-12! | 
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ There's still plenty of surface area on the vertical stab and believe it or not you don't need that much rudder to fly a large multi engine aircraft. Directional control can also be achieved by adjusting the throttles on the running engines, even though the text said he had only one fully functioning engine... | Okay, but remember the story that two other engines were severely damaged. One only able to put out "50%" power and the other subject to overspeeds. That's some serious flying FBJ. KUdos to that guy.
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Originally Posted by Matt308 Okay, but remember the story that two other engines were severely damaged. One only able to put out "50%" power and the other subject to overspeeds. That's some serious flying FBJ. KUdos to that guy. | Yep - pretty amazing!!
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| Why would the 109 pilot come up that close? I think even in the damaged condition the b-17 could be a threat - how'd he know that a gunner wouldn't let go a burst at him?
I remember Lyman saying that a pair of Fw190s came up and looked them over - he felt that they didn't bother with his plane because it would be a waste of ammo. | |
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I think even in the damaged condition the b-17 could be a threat - how'd he know that a gunner wouldn't let go a burst at him?
| Well, you don't really, could be like the 'Cottontail' gunner. But then again there could have been the feeling of mutual respect.
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