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01-29-2008, 07:27 AM
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#16 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | It does not have to be. The engines will look larger depending on the alttitude of the aircraft over the train and the distance the picture taker was from the aircraft.
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01-29-2008, 08:14 AM
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Country: | as the others have stated its in the air. Give away is the tracks for my percepion of the pic. Assuming its in England the standard gauge of railway track is 4 foot 8 inch and if its on the ground they look like narrow gauge which of course is incorrect.
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01-29-2008, 08:25 AM
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| I don't believe the picture is a fake. The smoke is clearly from the train, that was clear to me from the very moment I saw the pic. Had the smoke come from the engine it would've been turbulent and wouldn't spread.
Large shadow on the ground is likely from a tower covered by the a/c. 
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01-30-2008, 03:55 PM
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Country: | I know it makes you think it real but when u take a second look something just doesn't seem right wether its the shadow or something it just looks a bit odd |
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01-30-2008, 06:31 PM
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Country: | It definitely looks odd, but cameras, especially the cameras and film from the '40s and earlier, were not as reliable for quality of picture as we would expect now. Things improved quite a bit after the war and in the '50s, but during wartime the film wasn't very good. The lenses at the time created horrible compression, the chemicals on the film weren't always homogeneous, so you'd get spots of crispness and spots of dullness and low or high contrast that shouldn't have been. I would trust it's a real photo, just not very well taken and with inferior equipment. |
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01-30-2008, 07:56 PM
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#21 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | I would agree with that, Orion.
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01-31-2008, 08:02 AM
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#22 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by B-17engineer I know it makes you think it real but when u take a second look something just doesn't seem right wether its the shadow or something it just looks a bit odd | Its real...
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01-31-2008, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Soren I don't believe the picture is a fake. The smoke is clearly from the train, that was clear to me from the very moment I saw the pic. Had the smoke come from the engine it would've been turbulent and wouldn't spread.
| Exactly! Smoke exposed to 250-300 mph wind does not billow for quite a while, certainly not in this frame. Also, I do not think the smoke would be white if it was coming from the aircraft. |
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01-31-2008, 12:21 PM
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Country: | Its not smoke, its steam, its hanging there to long, if it was oil or coolant woundnt be all over the tail section? Plus the wing isnt cutting it in half, would the stream miss the tail completely?
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01-31-2008, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wilbur1 Its not smoke, its steam, its hanging there to long, if it was oil or coolant woundnt be all over the tail section? Plus the wing isnt cutting it in half, would the stream miss the tail completely? | ...think you got it right...
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01-31-2008, 02:55 PM
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