 | why nobody gibe credit to china???| Aviation Discuss why nobody gibe credit to china??? in the World War II - Aviation forums; its all USA, UK russia and even france... whi no one gibes credit to china???? knowing thefact that more than ... |
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04-08-2005, 03:39 AM
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#1 | | Junior Member
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| why nobody gibe credit to china???
its all USA, UK russia and even france... whi no one gibes credit to china???? knowing thefact that more than 60% of japanese soildiers killed in action was figthing the chinese not the americans or british | 
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04-08-2005, 05:49 AM
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#2 | | Hairy one of Old Judea
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Country:  | Welcome Solid_Snake, I hope you enjoy your time here on ww2 aircraft.net. 
More details please, can you refer us to books and / or websites that will give us more information?
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04-08-2005, 07:04 AM
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#3 | | "Shooter"
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Country:  | I actually have a tremendous amount of respect for the Chinese. They had a heck of a fight and did one hell of a job. My cousin was involved in the Doolittle raid. If the Chinese had not helped him, he may have gotten home, but it would have been much more difficult. The Chinese who helped him knew that if they were caught, it would cost them their lives, yet they did it anyway. It cost many of them just that.
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04-08-2005, 08:22 AM
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#4 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | i must admit i know little about the war in china.........
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04-08-2005, 08:51 AM
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#5 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | It is a piece of WWII history that is often not discussed or mentioned. It is kind of odd, because China was invaded very early in the war by the Japanese. China is also the first place the Zero was sent for operations.
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04-08-2005, 09:14 AM
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#6 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | and what was there to oppose them??
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04-08-2005, 09:22 AM
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04-09-2005, 12:21 AM
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#8 | | | We just don't discuss China much here becasue this is the "Aircraft of World War II" forum. China didn't have its own air-force (other than the AVG), and didn't produce its own warplanes. So it is rairly discussed here except w.r.t. the AVG, or incidentally.
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04-09-2005, 02:34 AM
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#9 | | Master of Ewes
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04-09-2005, 08:26 AM
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#10 | | "Shooter"
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Originally Posted by RG_Lunatic We just don't discuss China much here becasue this is the "Aircraft of World War II" forum. China didn't have its own air-force (other than the AVG), and didn't produce its own warplanes. So it is rairly discussed here except w.r.t. the AVG, or incidentally.
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Lunatic | Really?! Then you might want to ask these guys where they were...
Name and number of kills
Li Kwei-Tan 12
Liu Tsui-Kan 11
Lo Chu 11
Chen Jui-tien 6
Chow Ting-fong 6
Huang Shing-Yui 6
Kwang Hsin-Jui 6
Liu Chung-Wu 6
Chu Chin-hsun 5
Hwang Pei-yang 5
This is the list of Chinese aces of WWII. It was made up of planes made in other countries, but they did have an air force. Because you haven't heard about it doesn't mean it didn't exist. Do a google search, you will find quite a bit of info.
In addition to the AVG, there was also a Russian Volunteer Group that rarely gets mentioned. The Chinese had 11 Air Groups, 6 bomber groups and 5 fighter groups.
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04-09-2005, 08:29 AM
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#11 | | Hairy one of Old Judea
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Can you provide some links especially to the chinese aces and to the Russian Volunteer group.
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04-09-2005, 08:33 AM
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Country: | What aircraft did they fly?
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04-09-2005, 08:38 AM
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#13 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | They flew a number of aircraft, a pretty wide variety. They had some french, russian and american planes. They also flew some captured aircraft (A small number). Towards the end of the war, they even flew about 50 P-51s. The lists that I have seen are fairly incomplete and I don't read Chinese, so it is not an easy thing to research. There are also some conflicting numbers and such. Like I said, there is stuff on the web, but be cautious to check it against other sources.
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04-09-2005, 12:25 PM
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#14 | | | Well then this is a good topic for someone to research and present 
I look forward to reading it (hint hint).
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04-09-2005, 12:56 PM
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#15 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | sorry it's outside the british empire.............
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