Willi Reschke´s G-?, August 29th,1944

[seesul]

Kuba,

thank you for your opinion. Look at the LBB « Luftwaffe Bullet Board » Forum zur deutschen Luftfahrtgeschichte

[Erich]

well my friend I still feel it is a G-6. the only way you will ever find out is if you Ask Willi when and ever he used his MW 50 injection and if was in combat with Mustangs in this a/c you can well bet he did..........

E

[Wurger]

I can see the discussion has been going on.
I agree with you Erich it is G-6 in the pics undoubtedly.The only problem is if the a/c was powered by standard DB engine or AS one.As far as the "owner" of the plane is concerned I'm not convinced if it is Willi Reschke's one,especially he doesn't confirm it at all.Unless I didn't understand some statements there.

[seesul]

Hi ya all,

welcome back... All the historians say it´s a G-6. 3 weeks ago I met Willi Reschke and he said that JG302 had only used G-6´s and that this pictures are photo mounting. When I told him that I got these pictures from eye witnesses Willi started to think about it...
But anyway- all the technicians- German and Czech, say, it´s either G-6/AS or G-14AS. I´ve sent these pictures to one of the best Bf- specialist in our country- Mr. Tomas Poruba, and his opinion is G-14AS or G-6AS. I´ll try to translate his letter, will ask him for a permission and put it here. But it won´t be easy for me- too much technical terms

Roman

[Erich]

even if it was an AS it could not be a G-14 as Willi's gruppe disbanded before they ever received G-14's, I've said this before and I will say it again. The disbandonment of the gruppe led to the Fw 190A-8 approval of the "new" III. Schwere/JG 301 in the early fall of 1944

[Kuba]

I do not know, what I did wrong in my first post, hope nothing really scary.

Why not standard G-6? I thought it's clear. Streamlined fairing and engine covers for a larger supercharger.
AS engine, as seen by cold start device in lower position.
Any doubts here?
Airframe with larger covers fitted with 605 A engine?


Then, MW-Anlage.
Those shots are too blury to be sure, but I think there is no battery cover behind head armour in cockpit. No filler for rear tank. No MW Anlage, I bet
That eliminates G-14/AS.

Did Mr. Willi Reschke used MW-Anlage or Notleistung, also a emergency power?
Did he describe Methanol-Wasser injection in white 6 beyond any doubts or he describes emergency power, Erich?

I think it is G-6 too. But DB 605 AS powered one. Bf 109 G-6/AS.


I can only gues by careful study of those photos. Blury, not well scanned photos.


bye
Kuba

[seesul]

Originally Posted by Erich

even if it was an AS it could not be a G-14 as Willi's gruppe disbanded before they ever received G-14's, I've said this before and I will say it again. The disbandonment of the gruppe led to the Fw 190A-8 approval of the "new" III. Schwere/JG 301 in the early fall of 1944

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You´re right Erich, Aug. 29th was Willi´s (and JG302 as well) last flight in Bf109.
But finally I can feel in your words at least 0.001% chance of AS version

btw- there was a reunion of American and German pilots in Jan Zdiarsky´s museum on this weekend. Will let you know more this week.
I got a lot of nice pics from his museum that I´d like to share but have to ask Jan for his permission...

[seesul]

Originally Posted by Kuba

I do not know, what I did wrong in my first post, hope nothing really scary.

Why not standard G-6? I thought it's clear. Streamlined fairing and engine covers for a larger supercharger.
AS engine, as seen by cold start device in lower position.
Any doubts here?
Airframe with larger covers fitted with 605 A engine?


Then, MW-Anlage.
Those shots are too blury to be sure, but I think there is no battery cover behind head armour in cockpit. No filler for rear tank. No MW Anlage, I bet
That eliminates G-14/AS.

Did Mr. Willi Reschke used MW-Anlage or Notleistung, also a emergency power?
Did he describe Methanol-Wasser injection in white 6 beyond any doubts or he describes emergency power, Erich?

I think it is G-6 too. But DB 605 AS powered one. Bf 109 G-6/AS.


I can only gues by careful study of those photos. Blury, not well scanned photos.


bye
Kuba

Kuba,

I agree with you. You know it´s strange- no one official documents speaks about the AS version in JG302 .
That´s why we all fight now. But these pics show something else, and no one can tell me it´s a photo mounting. I spent a lot of time on discovering these pics, I know the eye witnesses in person and I also know, that there are some 2-3 pictures more, but no one knows, where they are as they were hidding for more than 40 years. I wish I could show them... But we have to wait.
I repeat, I´m not a Bf expert, but I see a AS engine cowling on this machine.

[seesul]

Originally Posted by Kuba

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Did Mr. Willi Reschke used MW-Anlage or Notleistung, also a emergency power?
Did he describe Methanol-Wasser injection in white 6 beyond any doubts or he describes emergency power, Erich?

I think it is G-6 too. But DB 605 AS powered one. Bf 109 G-6/AS.


I can only gues by careful study of those photos. Blury, not well scanned photos.


bye
Kuba

Kuba,

I asked Willi this question- Willi have never used an emergency power on Bf,Fw and Ta. Never.
And to the pics quality- it´s not a problem of scanning, the problem is a quality of the original pictures. During WW2 was usual to produce a pictures in size 5x3 cm, so very small... I´ll try to get this original picture once more again and scan it in higher resolution, with the result size of 3-10 MB. Let´s see. This is the only thing I can do, but it will take at least 2-3 weeks.

[Kuba]

Dear Roman,

I love Bf 109 from technical point of view and do not feel good in documents, unit looses and so on. So I really like to share my oppinions with other enthusiast. Always good to learn more about that aircraft.

Thank You and good luck in Your research!

Kuba

[Kuba]

Originally Posted by seesul

I asked Willi this question- Willi have never used an emergency power on Bf,Fw and Ta. Never.

Does it mean, he never used MW either and we can support the hypothesis that white 6 wasn't equipped with MW-Anlage?

[seesul]

Originally Posted by Kuba

Does it mean, he never used MW either and we can support the hypothesis that white 6 wasn't equipped with MW-Anlage?

...hard to say Kuba. What I understood is that he never used it even though he had this equipment available. Said in general, not regarding "white 6".

[seesul]

Originally Posted by Kuba

Dear Roman,

I love Bf 109 from technical point of view and do not feel good in documents, unit looses and so on. So I really like to share my oppinions with other enthusiast. Always good to learn more about that aircraft.

Thank You and good luck in Your research!

Kuba

Yeah, I absolutely agree! That´s why I showed these pictures as I just wanted to be sure, what is this version for, as lot of my friends told me that this is no G-6, but G-6AS version- and you can see, what happened. Even on that mentioned German forum

[A4K]

Just looking at it quickly Roman, and without reading any of the comments yet, it appears to have the type 8-009.320 rudder (that is, with large adjustable Flettner trim tab and two smaller ground adjusted tabs) and nose bulges a little ahead of and below the front exhaust stack that I would asociate with a standard Bf 109G-10.
Will have a look around though and will read you guys' comments too when I can, to see if there's evidence to the contrary.

[Erich]

A4K yes you need to read the whole thread............the unit was disbanded before the G-10 even was available