|
03-25-2006, 04:55 PM
| #541 |
| Der Crewchief   Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
Posts: 33,150
| That is a very impressive kill Ratio. WOW!
__________________  fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I] |
|         |
|
03-25-2006, 07:09 PM
| #542 |
| Senior Member  Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Manziana Field, near Rome
Posts: 260
| Not to forget that the Finns gained a similar kill ratio even operating whit the puny G-50, that even his creator Gabrielli described as "a machine substancially too big for it's engine". It depends of the pilots.
__________________  |
|
| |
|
03-26-2006, 08:41 AM
| #543 |
| Senior Member  Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Deepest Darkest NZ
Posts: 1,131
    | Ah, so the only thing saving the Buffalo from being a complete waste of metal were the Finns? Seems fair somehow. Kiwimac
__________________  |
|
| |
|
03-26-2006, 09:02 AM
| #544 | |
| IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO  Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA
Posts: 16,049
| Quote:
__________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"  | |
| |
|
03-26-2006, 08:27 PM
| #545 | |
| Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
Posts: 33,150
| Quote:
__________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I] | |
|
| |
|
03-27-2006, 10:11 AM
| #546 |
| Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 12
| Brewster - I'd say that apart from the Finns, who used it against a VERY WEAK Red airforce, using obsolete biplanes like the I-153 in 1939-40, the Buffalo was not a particular success in its appointed role as a fighter in WW2. Just ask those poor RAF and USMC pilots who had to take on Oscars and Zero's! There are others, the Fairey Battle and the TBD were both swatted from the sky with ease, yet both were modern designs when they were first conceived, and both should have had better fighter support, so I think its unfair to include them. The Ju-87 was just as easily shot-down, but that doesn't make it a failure. When it comes down to it, it really depends on the situation that the warplane is used in I guess. The Blackburn Botha is an odd one to choose as it was very much a prewar aircraft! At least I don't recall reading anything about them in combat in WW2 anyways! |
|
| |
|
03-27-2006, 05:17 PM
| #547 |
| Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
Posts: 33,150
| I personally like to think of either the the MS.405 or the P.11 as the worst aircraft. The MS.405 was a good solid fighter when it came out but was outclassed by the wars begin and that is why over 400 of them were shot down to only 175 enemy kills. The P.11 was outdated before the war even started, but I give it up to the Polish pilots who flew the P.11 against the Germans. They new they were outclassed and they bravely flew against them during the battle for Poland.
__________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I] |
|
| |
|
03-28-2006, 02:48 PM
| #548 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England
Posts: 20,387
| The P.11 cant be considered bad as for what it was it was quite good and extremely manoeverable... This is why I dont think an aircraft can be bad for being simply outdated... |
|
| |
|
03-28-2006, 03:02 PM
| #549 | |
| IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA
Posts: 16,049
| Quote:
The Finns fought well and figured out how to get the best from their Buffaloes -
__________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT" | |
|
| |
|
03-28-2006, 03:07 PM
| #550 | |
| Senior Member  Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 19,945
| Quote:
__________________  "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy." | |
|
| |
|
03-28-2006, 03:41 PM
| #551 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England
Posts: 20,387
| But the Ba-88 was only good in its original record breaking form, the military aircraft was totally different and couldnt really fly  Ba-88 is still the worst. |
|
| |
|
03-28-2006, 04:07 PM
| #552 | |
| Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
Posts: 33,150
| Quote:
__________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I] | |
|
| |
|
03-28-2006, 04:16 PM
| #553 | |
| Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Manziana Field, near Rome
Posts: 260
| Quote:
the Ba-88 was used to bomb Corsica, and ended it's life as dive-bomber trainer. Only in North Africa, where the sand filters lowered the power of the engines and the external bomb raks enanched the drag, the Ba-88 proved to be useless, and 28 of them were finally used as decoy. It's however a good candidate for the title of the "less economical efficient airplane", since it was even expensive to build, decisely too much for a trainer.
__________________ Last edited by Dogwalker; 03-28-2006 at 04:19 PM. | |
|
| |
|
03-29-2006, 02:27 PM
| #554 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WSM, England
Posts: 20,387
| I forgot the fact that it was only the North African ones...Its still pretty shoddy though. From what ive read it also seems the the Ba-65 was a poor aircraft too. |
|
| |
|
03-29-2006, 03:43 PM
| #555 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Manziana Field, near Rome
Posts: 260
| Definitely, and essencially for the same reason, the particular structure studied by the designers Giuseppe Panzeri and Antonio Parano.
__________________ Last edited by Dogwalker; 03-29-2006 at 03:48 PM. |
|
| |
 |
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
| |
Linear Mode
