 | Worst aircraft of WW2? (Continued)| Aviation Discuss Worst aircraft of WW2? (Continued) in the World War II - Aviation forums; i would have to say the humble lysander. who ever designed it as a fighter should be shot. it did ... |
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10-19-2005, 12:36 PM
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| i would have to say the humble lysander. who ever designed it as a fighter should be shot. it did a great role as a soe plane but not as a fighter. |
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10-19-2005, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ollieholmes i would have to say the humble lysander. who ever designed it as a fighter should be shot. it did a great role as a soe plane but not as a fighter. | The Lysander was not developed as a fighter. It was developed for the RAF as an army cooperation aircraft and for ground support.
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10-19-2005, 01:06 PM
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| ive seen pics of it with cannons in the weel spats and ive seen many pics of them downed in the battle for france. |
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10-19-2005, 01:09 PM
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Country: | They can use cannons for ground support. They were not meant to be a fighter. As such they are obviously no match for a fighter of the time.
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10-19-2005, 01:13 PM
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10-19-2005, 01:13 PM
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Country: | The Lysander was a ground support/spotter/liason aircraft. It was never intended as a fighter, and never took part in fighter operations. It was used as a light bomber for a small amount of time ...never as a fighter.
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10-20-2005, 11:30 AM
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Country: | and she cirtainly shouldn't be considdered for the worst aircraft of WWII..........
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10-22-2005, 02:38 PM
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Country: | Hell no, although am I right in saying that It did score a couple of air-to-air kills early in the war? I remember reading it somewhere.
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10-22-2005, 04:51 PM
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10-22-2005, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by trackend I agree she did her job well | That she did Lee, especially later in the war, dropping and picking up agents in occupied countries (at least I think she did)
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10-23-2005, 04:05 AM
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Country: | yeah she did, she had very good STOL capabilities and so could easily take off and land in fields and underprepared strips in occupied Europe and south east aisa where they also used C-47s in the same role.........
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10-24-2005, 01:39 PM
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| See to me bad aircraft are also those that were good. They just had some REALLY big flaws that, while they were exellent aircraft, they could be terrible aircraft or death traps. Examples:
1. Hs-129- discussed in length before
2. The B-24-Horrendous placement of its fuel tanks.
3. B-26-Horrible placement of switches.
4. The C-46 Commando- when hit and on fire, its metal would start to vaporize, especially in the wings.
5. Curtiss Helldivers- A dive bomber really does not need its tail to fly off in a dive.
And so on and so forth. I think that all aircraft are good, its just how many of its bad habits come out.
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10-24-2005, 01:43 PM
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Country: | Thats like saying the Breda 88 was a good aircraft except for the fact it couldnt fly. Hell, maybe if a church could fly it would be a good aircraft! 
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10-24-2005, 01:58 PM
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| Ya never know! It depends how big the catapult is! Okay so the Ba-88 its only a good aircraft if you are flying against Eithiopian soldiers. But my point is that even good aircraft are sometimes bad (Gawd that sounded so dirty). Even the Ba-88 which I admit my knowlege of Italian and for that matter French aircraft is very limited, must have had some good points that designers could have used on other aircraft or learned lessons from it.
But I guess all airforces have thier really ugly ducklings.
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10-24-2005, 02:01 PM
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Country: | The Ba-88 was good, set a couple of speed records, but when they added armament, armour and sand filters to it the thing couldnt even take off with out a struggle 
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