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03-30-2006, 06:50 AM
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| Does anyone have any pictures of the Ba-88 or 65? I don't think I have ever seen one of these aircraft before.
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03-30-2006, 07:01 AM
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03-30-2006, 07:11 AM
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The Ba-88, heavvy fighter, light bomber.
The real ancestor of Ba-88, the recognitor Ba-75. 
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the Ba-65 was an assault aircraft, proposed in two versions, with or without the gunner www.airwar.ru
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04-04-2006, 11:02 AM
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Country: | The F2A buffalo was good in the hands of experienced finnish pilots who went up against rookie russian pilots in inferior planes. I would rate the buffalo as the worst fighter in the pacific, since the A6M2 Zero could fly circles around it and blow it out of the sky. |
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04-06-2006, 06:54 AM
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Country: | dude, they were probably still fighting when the La-5s came into service, and the Finnish version was better cause it was lighter, more maneuverable and had a better power-to-weight ratio
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04-06-2006, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Vassili Zaitzev The F2A buffalo was good in the hands of experienced finnish pilots who went up against rookie russian pilots in inferior planes. I would rate the buffalo as the worst fighter in the pacific, since the A6M2 Zero could fly circles around it and blow it out of the sky. | Rookie? How much combat experience do you think the Finns had?!?! "0"!!!!
Training, training, training - the Finns were better trained but had NO combat experience, unlike the Soviets.....
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04-06-2006, 11:02 AM
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Country: | okay, so if the soviets had combat experience, how come some the top Finnish pilots with no pre-combat experience stave off a airforce bigger than its own? |
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04-06-2006, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Vassili Zaitzev okay, so if the soviets had combat experience, how come some the top Finnish pilots with no pre-combat experience stave off a airforce bigger than its own? | They were better trained and basically they fought for their very existence - its amazing what a little incentive will do!!
Here's a good site about the Finns and their WW2 participation: http://hkkk.fi/~yrjola/war/finland/summary.html
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04-07-2006, 12:05 AM
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Country: | they don't use big formation tactics, if they encounter a huge formation theirs is like so far apart, and the Finns also had experience with their D.XXIs from the winter war, before they got their Buffaloes
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04-07-2006, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by loomaluftwaffe they don't use big formation tactics, if they encounter a huge formation theirs is like so far apart, and the Finns also had experience with their D.XXIs from the winter war, before they got their Buffaloes | They arrived too late in the winter war but that's when most of the "Russian Mauling" took place.
Bottom line the Finns fought better and were better trained - it was a level playing field and the Finns made the best of it. If anything the Russians should of gotten better and mauled the Buffalo during the Constitution War if the aircraft was truly that bad.....
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04-07-2006, 11:38 PM
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Country: | what really was the primary fighter of the Finnish during the continuation war? Buffalo? Fokker? 109?
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04-08-2006, 09:37 AM
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Country: | I would say the 109 - since it was the only aircraft where a spares and support system was available....
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04-10-2006, 09:54 PM
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04-10-2006, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullockracing Didn't they fly the P-36 Hawk as well? | Yes, they had 44 of them they purchased from Germany. These were captured after the fall of France.
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04-11-2006, 07:31 AM
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Country: | I just read that website by FlyboyJ on the winter war, whoa, whole soviet infantry divisions wiped out. |
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