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02-20-2007, 04:57 PM
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#721 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________  US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | 
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02-20-2007, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet  Thankyou Kris. Atleast you understand what I am trying to say and I agree with you fully. | Jeeeeee,
You think he is going to give you some Belgium chocolate for that  | |
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02-20-2007, 05:02 PM
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#723 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Was that a very sorry attempt at humor Wespe? Because it was not funny? Dont piss me off tonight Wespe.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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02-20-2007, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Yeah the Me-262 was the King of the Skies for all of 10 hours...Then the engines flamed out... | Yep,
thats exactly the 10 hours I am talking about  , unfortunatly they didn't have 3000 planes at 10 hours.
Don't bring up the pilot and fuel shortage now.
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02-20-2007, 05:04 PM
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#725 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Why not, it was the truth. Is the truth desturbing you. Does the truth hurt.
History is history, I am sorry if you dont want to realize what the truth is.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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02-21-2007, 10:43 AM
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#726 | | Banned
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Originally Posted by Wespe Yep,
thats exactly the 10 hours I am talking about , unfortunatly they didn't have 3000 planes at 10 hours.
Don't bring up the pilot and fuel shortage now.
thanks | Hallo Wespe/Landsmann
come on, I agree that the 262 was a fantastic fighter (when it was able to fly) fact is the bird was not performing as a whole due to its engines. So the impact it was supposed to have never came.
So you also knowing that, you should be able to agree, that due to this it cant be nominated as "the" best aircraft of WWII right ?
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02-21-2007, 10:57 AM
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#727 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Okay Jabo or should I say Wespe. What would you rather be called? Wespe or Jabo? You tripped the multiple login alarm. What game are you trying to play? You know we dont like people being dishonest with others around here. Even though this place is laid back we take it serious.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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02-21-2007, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Okay Jabo or should I say Wespe. What would you rather be called? Wespe or Jabo? You tripped the multiple login alarm. What game are you trying to play? You know we dont like people being dishonest with others around here. Even though this place is laid back we take it serious. |
Oh damn someone else trying to come here and play games or BS us. He had better explain fast before Dan sees this.
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02-21-2007, 11:09 AM
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#729 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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02-21-2007, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet He has 15 minutes...actually 10 now... | Lay the beat down Chris, kick some butt.
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02-21-2007, 11:17 AM
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#731 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Swing Batta Batta Swing!!! He is out of here.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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02-21-2007, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Swing Batta Batta Swing!!! He is out of here. | You the man Chris.
At times you come off as this nice quite guy but when you get ticked (takes more to tick you off then Dan) you play hard ball.
No games or BS here newbies. You want to try and snow people then go some place else. Way to go Chris
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05-04-2007, 02:06 AM
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Country:  | Worst aircraft of WWII: The unfixable ones. Keep tinkering with them and they never run. Might as well get rid of them but you keep on trying, hoping it will work.
I guess all kinds of aircraft suffer from this problem.
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05-16-2007, 03:23 PM
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Looks sometimes define performance, in aviation at least and that one really sets the bar for being a bad aircraft :
Here is a quote from Jerzy B. Cynks's Polish Aircraft 1893-1939:
"To save time and expense the Department of Aeronautics insisted that conversion to the Pegasus engines should be carried out with the minimum of alteration. Initial investigations, conducted by P.Z.L stress specialists, revealed that this could only be done at the expense of a reduction in the safety factor, and the Department accepted the risk. Consequently, in spite of an increase in power of over 50 per cent, the structure was not strengthened except for the gluing of pieces of thicker plywood into some sections of wing covering...Superficial checks did not indicate any structural damage, but the spars were not examined properly...On [November 7, 1936], the aircraft...took off on a demonstration flight and then disintegrated in the air over Okecie aerodrome, killing the entire crew. Comprehensive static tests and thorough investigations were ordered to determine the causes of the crash, and those confirmed the general weakness of the wing and also revealed a considerable disparity between the theoretical and actual strength of the casein glue which reduced the already low safety factor even further.
"The undercarriage units imported from France had faulty locking mechanisms and the electric engines proved too weak to raise the wheels properly...The mechanical locking device added by L.W.S. did little to resolve the problem, and the undercarriages of most Zubrs were eventually locked permanently in the down position."
The Zubr entered service in the summer of 1939, but due to their increased weight, they were practically useless. Cynk notes, "The aircraft could not be operated at full loaded weight from temporary landing fields, and in a lightly loaded condition could carry virtually no bombs and were therefore useless for combat."
Only 16 were built, as Poland got attacked by Germany, the Zubrs only served as decoys!
At least for consolation, one had been used by the Luftwaffe as an unarmed trainer.  | |
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05-31-2007, 05:25 PM
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#735 | | Senior Member
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