 | Worst aircraft of WW2? (Continued)| Aviation Discuss Worst aircraft of WW2? (Continued) in the World War II - Aviation forums; Originally Posted by 16KJV11
I was reading about the Soviet P-39 aces and I thought it was noteworthy that ... |
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10-01-2007, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 16KJV11  I was reading about the Soviet P-39 aces and I thought it was noteworthy that they wouldn't recognize one of the greatest aces as Hero of the Soviet Union b/c he became such a top scorer in the P-39 instead of one of the Reds workhorses.
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10-01-2007, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Civettone Who was that??
Kris | this what he is talking about : Soviet P-39 Aces Flying American equipment was a mixed blessing. The airplanes were as good (or better) as any Russian-made, but in the Stalinist era, carried a certain stigma. The leading Airacobra ace, Alexandr Pokryshkin, who finished the war with 59 aerial victories, was once denied a third award of the Hero of the Soviet Union, because that would have glorified foreign manufacturing.
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10-01-2007, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Civettone Who was that??
Kris | Kris, nice to have you back! 
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10-01-2007, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Civettone Who was that??
Kris | Welcome back - haven't seen you around in quite a while.
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10-02-2007, 02:46 PM
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Country: | Yeah I got back a couple of days ago. I said I would be back at the forum in the beginning of October ... so here I am. 
Anyway, about the matter of the lend-lease equipment, I have my doubts about it. Awarding medals are not an exact science. It doesn't always makes sense why some get them and others don't. I can imagine it's normal to find reasons behind it.
Well, I'm not saying it wasn't because of the foreign equipment but I have my doubts about it as I don't hear this stories from the army of which half was equiped with lend-lease equipment.
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10-02-2007, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Civettone Anyway, about the matter of the lend-lease equipment, I have my doubts about it. Awarding medals are not an exact science. It doesn't always makes sense why some get them and others don't. I can imagine it's normal to find reasons behind it. | I'm reading "Bloody Shambles" Vol. 2. Some of the RAF, RAAF and RNZAF pilots and aircrews who flew against the initial Japanese invasion forces in SE Asia should of been awarded the Victoria Cross (Especially those flying Wildebeest) and probably would of had they done the same actions in Europe.
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10-03-2007, 12:30 AM
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Country: | Interesting. It's definitely true that those boys didn't get the attention nor the praise they deserved.
Just one of many factors which influence handing out medals or not.
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10-03-2007, 01:14 AM
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10-03-2007, 02:40 PM
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Country: | As a fighter the Boomerang was no match for the Zero and uncapable of catching most Jap bombers but it must have been a decent attack aircraft with its bombload and cannons.
At the time of its design the Australians didn't have an alternative, so better this aircraft than none at all.
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10-08-2007, 01:58 PM
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Country:  | Dont diss the Battle some very brave pilots bombed german targets and harbours at the start of the war knowing what they had to go against but it was all we had at the time.Dont forget we were even still flying the Gladiator and Heyford | |
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10-08-2007, 06:12 PM
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Country: | The thing with these light bombers is that it's not so much that these aircraft were bad, it was the concept with proved to be disastrous. All single-engined light bombers failed during WW2. The Germans were one of the few to realize this before the start of the war when they put the He 45 out of service. On the other hand, if the British had had a Stuka it would probably have faired just as bad as the Battle.
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10-14-2007, 01:16 PM
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10-21-2007, 08:09 AM
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I'd have to say the RAF Defiant-aircraft-not because it couldn't shoot down EA-but because it not only had such a ludericous design-putting 4 MG in a Bomber type turrent on a figther aircraft yet not leaving any MG for the Pilot in the Wings! In fact it would have been better to have placed 2 to 4 MG in the Wings and streamlined the rear canopy os the gunner could fire 1 to 2 MG-but the whole concept of a EA bomber letting itself be blasted at close range by 4 MG from a fighter plane!!  | |
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10-22-2007, 11:25 AM
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Country: | Again, it may not have been a bad aircraft but a bad concept.
There would be no need to change the Defiant into a conventional aircraft, you already had the Hurricane and Spitfire for that.
I can imagine it looked like a good idea in the late thirties...
And it did make a reasonably good nightfighter...
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10-23-2007, 02:39 PM
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Country: | Well, I would have to say the Breda Ba. 88 has my vote. Other than as a weight to keep the airfield from spinning off the planet, it seemed to have no useful purpose.
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