WW2 hybrids... - Aircraft of World War II

Geedee · 01-05-2009, 05:03 PM

What have you seen / heard about ?.

I'll start the thread rolling with a B24 Liberator having a B-17 nose grafted on it !!!. Here's the link... YouTube - B-17 nose on a B-24

Gnomey · 01-05-2009, 05:41 PM

Westland P.12 Lysander - Delanne Tail

Supermarine/Daimler-Benz Spitfire

Unreal Aircraft - Hybrid Aircraft

And of course the Merlin engined BF-109 (Hispano HA-1112-M1L)

Marshall_Stack · 01-05-2009, 05:44 PM

The ultimate hybrid....

P-75 Eagle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Airframes · 01-05-2009, 06:26 PM

There was also the 'slip-wing' Hurrucane, with a jettisonable 'biplane' wing, and the 'air-tow' Spitfire, the latter designed to tow a long-range fuel tank!
And of course the 'prone pilot' Meteor. Got pics somewhere of these, but can't locate them at the moment!

Junkers88A1 · 01-05-2009, 07:54 PM

i have also seen pictures of a Me 109 fuselage with Me 262 wings and engines.. a testbed for the wings and engines in the eraly stages of construction of the 262.. wills ee if i can refind the pics in our museums archive

GF

FLYBOYJ · 01-05-2009, 09:00 PM

B-38 - B-17 with Allison Engines.

BTW - the photos came from aerofiles who put a copyright on US Government photos - piss on you!

aflyer · 01-06-2009, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkers88A1

i have also seen pictures of a Me 109 fuselage with Me 262 wings and engines.. a testbed for the wings and engines in the eraly stages of construction of the 262.. wills ee if i can refind the pics in our museums archive

GF

I saw this a couple of nights ago as I was wandering around the site... helpful?

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/air...2-a-15626.html (Propdriven Me-262)

Cheers
Kerry

Waynos · 01-06-2009, 08:19 AM

The description posted by Junkers88A1 sounds more like the image posted below, this was based on the Me155 with the nosewheel of the Me309 ( and possibly the nosecone of the Bf 110?) but still has very much got the look of a 109 crossed with a 262.

It was not a testbed, but was intended as a quick and cheap alternative to the 262, however it was never built because it was realised it would be neither of those things.

Milos Sijacki · 01-06-2009, 08:30 AM

I found it really interesting when I read about Royal Yugoslav Hurricane powered by Daimler-Benz engine.

Marshall_Stack · 01-06-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ

B-38 - B-17 with Allison Engines.

BTW - the photos came from aerofiles who put a copyright on US Government photos - piss on you!

From what I remember/understand, this experiment was done because of a concern of a shortage of Wright Cyclone engines. That shortage never materialized so they dropped the plane. The plane however, was something like 15 mph faster.

In my own twisted mind, I think that they should have used this aircraft as the YB-40. The YB-40 could not keep up with the B-17s after the B-17s dropped their bombs due to their extra weight. With the Allison engines they might have been able to keep up.

Junkers88A1 · 01-06-2009, 07:30 PM

I think you are right waynos

thats the one i saw a picture of

i think one was buildt but not sure..as i saw a pictre that i was sure was a 109 with the 262 wings ..but the picture was old and not very clear !! we have it somewhere in trhe museums archive..will see if i find it one day when looking thru the pics

AMCKen · 01-22-2009, 10:05 PM

Wasn't there an Allison engined B-24 also?

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01-06-2009, 08:19 AM	#8
Waynos Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 914	The description posted by Junkers88A1 sounds more like the image posted below, this was based on the Me155 with the nosewheel of the Me309 ( and possibly the nosecone of the Bf 110?) but still has very much got the look of a 109 crossed with a 262. It was not a testbed, but was intended as a quick and cheap alternative to the 262, however it was never built because it was realised it would be neither of those things. __________________ BlondeValkyrie - Bugger off and host your OWN pictures you thieving twat Last edited by Waynos; 01-06-2009 at 08:22 AM. Reason: spelling

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01-05-2009, 05:44 PM	#3
Marshall_Stack Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 379	The ultimate hybrid.... P-75 Eagle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

01-05-2009, 06:26 PM	#4
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,050	There was also the 'slip-wing' Hurrucane, with a jettisonable 'biplane' wing, and the 'air-tow' Spitfire, the latter designed to tow a long-range fuel tank! And of course the 'prone pilot' Meteor. Got pics somewhere of these, but can't locate them at the moment!

01-05-2009, 07:54 PM	#5
Junkers88A1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 1,100	i have also seen pictures of a Me 109 fuselage with Me 262 wings and engines.. a testbed for the wings and engines in the eraly stages of construction of the 262.. wills ee if i can refind the pics in our museums archive GF

01-06-2009, 08:30 AM	#9
Milos Sijacki Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Serbia Posts: 418	I found it really interesting when I read about Royal Yugoslav Hurricane powered by Daimler-Benz engine.

01-06-2009, 07:30 PM	#11
Junkers88A1 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 1,100	I think you are right waynos thats the one i saw a picture of i think one was buildt but not sure..as i saw a pictre that i was sure was a 109 with the 262 wings ..but the picture was old and not very clear !! we have it somewhere in trhe museums archive..will see if i find it one day when looking thru the pics