 | Which WWII Axis nation produced most dangerous pilots?| Aviation Discuss Which WWII Axis nation produced most dangerous pilots? in the World War II - Aviation forums; yeah i've posted that on here before, apparently if you keep hydrated (with water guys...) it's ok.............. |
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08-21-2005, 01:22 PM
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#151 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | yeah i've posted that on here before, apparently if you keep hydrated (with water guys...) it's ok...........
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08-21-2005, 02:32 PM
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#152 | | He who does not skim
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Country:  | Yeah, but that wastes valuable beer room.   | |
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08-21-2005, 02:40 PM
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#153 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Not if you go into a rock club and mosh all night long. Water with your beer keeps you hydrated while you sweat your life away, it's just a constant cycle - the water goes down the throat and sweats through the skin. Meanwhile, the beer stays in your stomach.
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08-30-2005, 02:28 PM
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#154 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | I agree when I go to a good rock club and head bang and mosh all night I actually dont even feel the alcohol because I am sweating it out so much.
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06-07-2007, 06:32 PM
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#155 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | Didn't some US pilots think the Japanese indulged in too many acrobatics?
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06-07-2007, 08:06 PM
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#156 | | Senior Member
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Country: | I never heard that. Aerobatic maneuvers form a good base for ACM, and all US aviators fly fundamental aerobatics. For example, an Immelman is an extremely quick maneuver to reverse your heading 180* while climbing vertically... while a Split-S does the same while descending.
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07-27-2007, 01:08 PM
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#157 | | Member
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Country:  | hi. let me mention one thing. i red many comments about bushido and 'fanatic,crazy,brainwashed,stupid'.
Calling japanese pilots such names,who sacrificed themself without thinkin about a second,is a bit wrong. it sounds a bit odd, but im very interested in bushido since i do japanese martial arts like jiu-jitsu and i did my researches about that.
Centuries of isolation,an extremely high standard of culture involving discipline. Yes,we can compare the japanese pilots of ww2 to modern samurais. no retreat,no questions,only honour to die for the emperor (hirohito at that time) and the imperium. i wouldnt call it brainwashed.it was their faith,their destiny,their religion. the sinto religion, and the way of the warrior,bushido been the basics of their mind. in our culture we called em crazy,kamikaze, baka, suicidal. but since we cannot compare the western and japanese culture that easy, i would tend to consider the past of japan carefully.
to the topic:' most dangerous'..hmm..dangerous is different of fearsome or cruel. so the germans and finns been the most accurate,high-scoring, well trained opponents for the allies in my opinion.
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07-27-2007, 02:09 PM
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#158 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | Well I aint got nothing against the Japanese. Hell, I even buy their motorbikes.
But as far as world war II goes, screw 'em. What they did was beyond warfare...beyond evil. If you think you can excuse behaviour by saying that we don't understand them then I don't want to.
Martial arts is about self defence, not the beheading of British POWs with a sword. I do tae kwan do and that's Korean. haha.
I was once in the military and duty didn't include rape or murder.
Why do you think the Jerries surrendered to the Brits and Yanks in droves? even risked their lives to escape the Russkies. Why did commonwealth troops fight on against the Japs rather than surrender?
Whatever happened in WW2, the British, Americans and Commenwealth troops and nations kept their humanity in a dirty business. Very few Russians, Germans or Japs could say the same. | |
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07-27-2007, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by The Basket  Whatever happened in WW2, the British, Americans and Commenwealth troops and nations kept their humanity in a dirty business. Very few Russians, Germans or Japs could say the same. | Hmmm many allied soldiers did nasty things as well, heat of the battle that sort of things. In a war, emotions get you... I think that most of the Wehrmacht soldiers were decent people, only fighting on the wrong site from my point of view, but not more evil then allied soldiers. The nazi's... well that's a different story....
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07-27-2007, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcel Hmmm many allied soldiers did nasty things as well, heat of the battle that sort of things. In a war, emotions get you... I think that most of the Wehrmacht soldiers were decent people, only fighting on the wrong site from my point of view, but not more evil then allied soldiers. The nazi's... well that's a different story.... | 100% agree, most German soldiers never even knew what was going on in their homeland behind those gates in those camps.
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07-27-2007, 03:21 PM
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#161 | | Member
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Country: | well,i dont wanna discuss allied warcrimes here. sure,not to compare,but they werent new-born sheeps either.like who invented the conc.camps? the british .the a-bombs only to demonstrate it to the soviets.the secret of pearl harbour.
the knowledge about the death camps,but not bombing the railways.everything ,including children and women,hunting-strafing them for fun,but not these railways.
about rape and murder,the victors did it ,all the time.but the victorious never gets punished.offtopic,sorry. it was a dirty war,and there are brave men who fought like knights on both sides,and also murders and ill minded.
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07-27-2007, 03:36 PM
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#162 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Lets keep this on subject before this turns into a huge can of worms. Lets get back to talking about pilots. (old thread or not)
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07-27-2007, 03:47 PM
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#163 | | Member
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Country: | agreed.
id like to hear your opinions.much depend of the aircraft flown.
a I-16 Rata with a skilled pilot could be indeed dangerous, and a la-7 flown by a noobie,not.
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07-27-2007, 04:21 PM
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#164 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | True...a skilled pilot can do a lot more damage with a inferior aircraft than a noob with a more lets say "modern aircraft".And to be honest my country had its share of rather dangerous pilots.And we used I.A.R. 80 and 81 and those weren't so great.Anyway the Finns were definitely dangerous pilots.But in the end a dangerous pilot doesn't have to ram his plane into the enemy but rather to know his plane and to make the best of it.
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07-27-2007, 07:45 PM
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#165 | | Member
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Country: | i heard the IAR 80 ,compared to Bf-109E (or F,im not sure),flown by a german major, was only slightly inferior in some aspects to the Messer. The I.A.Rs shot down a high number of soviet a/c,and later even 4engined usaaf bombers,even lightnings.
Its based on polish PZL planes,which i particulary like  id like to see a test involving the Fiat CR.42, The Gladiator ,the I-153 and the PZL.P.11.
i know the perfomances,armament etc. but how was the handling?
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