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Old 11-06-2004, 05:59 AM   #31
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i made a little mistyke and posted those pics in nose art, insted black and withe ,
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Old 11-06-2004, 06:38 AM   #32
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Old 11-06-2004, 11:48 AM   #33
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they're privateers i believe?? they don't look much like B-32s...................
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Old 11-06-2004, 12:49 PM   #34
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yes they are.
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not the best shot i've seen.................
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they're privateers i believe?? they don't look much like B-32s...................
Who on Gods sweet, green earth said they were B-32's
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no one, i'd narrowed it down to the possibility that they were either privateers or B-32s, i was just saying that out of the two i'd narrowed it down to i didn't think it was the B-32................
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Thats what it said at the top of the pic...not looking were we!
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I hope this solves it...
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Old 11-09-2004, 09:48 AM   #40
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There were many secret planes. Many of them were innovative in the fact that they were years ahead of there time and many led to aircraft that are now in service with modern airforces. One project that stands out for me is Junkers aircraft that never made it past the drawing board. It was to be powered by 2 Daimler Benz DB007 turbojets and looks just like the A-10 Thunderbolt in service today with the USAF. This aircraft was found in a book called Luftwaffe Secret Projects by Dieter Herwig and Heinz Rode. It is a great book and covers many types of X-planes, most of which never made it past drawing board. Imagine if they had.
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Another interesting design was the Lippisch Dm-1 which never made a first flight but was interesting none of the less. It kind of looks like some Sci-Fi Ferangi Start Trek ship. Here is a picture of it. I wonder how it would have flown at all.
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I believe you are talking of the Junkers Ju-287, a weird looking plane to say the least.
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And I dont know why I forgot this one but it is another just truely beautiful plane. The Gotha Ho-229.
Origin: Gothaer Waggonfabrik AG. to Horten design (see note below)
Type: Single seat fighter/bomber

Engines:
Two Junkers Jumo 004B turbojets
Thrust: 1,980lb (900kg)

Dimensions:
Span 16.75m
Length 7.47m
Height 2.80m

Weights:
Empty: 10,140lbs (4600kg)
Max. loaded: 19,840lb (9000kg)

Speed:
607mph (977km/h)
Ceiling:
52,500ft (16,000m)

Range:
1,970 miles (3170km) at 393mph (635km/h) with two drop tanks

Armaments: Planned
Four Mk 103 or Mk 108 cannon
Plus
Two 1,000kg bombs

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First flown in January 1945, the Ho 229 was the innovative design of Walter and Reimar Horten, both former Luftwaffe officers. The test programme showed the 229 to have outstanding speed and handling characteristics but developement was halted when US troops overran the research facility. Some dispute has arisen over whether the 229 should be classified as the Go 229 or Ho 229. Since Gothar was supposed to build 229 and didn't really design it, I'm arbitrarily going with the Ho 229 designation in honor of the designers.
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Old 11-09-2004, 10:00 AM   #44
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If the German had got that thing flying we would have been screwed...

*Prediction of the lancs next post*

"Yeah but they wouldn't have had the fuel to use it....................."

Or something along those lines
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Heres just some more pics of it at what I believe is the Imperial War Museum but I am not sure exactly where.
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