Yellow or orange banded Vals at Pearl Harbor? - Aircraft of World War II

PFF · 10-21-2007, 09:57 AM

Did any carrier "Vals" at Pearl harbor Attack 7 December 1941 have Yellow or orange "tail/belly" bands? if so from what carrier?

syscom3 · 10-21-2007, 11:37 AM

Good question.

If no one here knows the answer, heres a great forum, for all things about Japanese aircraft:

J-aircraft.com Main Page

Micdrow · 10-21-2007, 03:45 PM

Found this in the book Japanese Carrier Airgroups, 1941-45

Wayne Little · 10-21-2007, 07:13 PM

hello PFF will respond when I get home from work, tonight.

ccheese · 10-21-2007, 07:39 PM

Micdrow: What have you got for markings of the "Rufe" seaplane ?
I've got a rubber powered balsa model to do after I finish the FW-190
and a BF109. Thanks...

Charles

Micdrow · 10-21-2007, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccheese

Micdrow: What have you got for markings of the "Rufe" seaplane ?
I've got a rubber powered balsa model to do after I finish the FW-190
and a BF109. Thanks...

Charles

I will have to do some looking around and see if I have any. I do have this profile which I think would make a pretty good candidate though.

Micdrow · 10-21-2007, 08:37 PM

Sorry Charles, all I have are profiles. These are from the book Aircam series on the zero.

Wayne Little · 10-22-2007, 08:57 AM

There are some "profiles" that indicate only Soryu and Hiryu 'Command' Vals carried yellow command striping on the tails.
I don't recall any photo's that confirm this, the detail originates from japanese researchers and historians of PH aircraft via PH veterans and documents compiled for various published articles about PH aircraft, colours, pilots and aircrew.One primary article is "Shinjuwan No 101 K" ( Pearl Harbor and 101 aircraft) by H. Yoshimura, M Asano and David Aiken. I need to find the link to this article for you.
All other 'Command' Vals used Red or White tail stripping.

Micdrow · 10-22-2007, 09:20 AM

I use to know David Aiken, at least though the internet. I believe he is the president of the Pearl Harbor museum in Texas. Knows a great deal on Japanese aircraft.

You can usual get in touch with him at J-aircraft.com

ccheese · 10-22-2007, 12:22 PM

Micdrow: Thanks for the info. The "Rufe" I have shows it painted a
dull red color (?). I think one of yours would look better. Thanks...

Charles

Micdrow · 10-22-2007, 02:17 PM

Hi Charles, Dull red, interesting. Could it possible be a captured model. The dark ones above are suppose be a dark green, The others of couse are white. Is it possible that your dark red one is a captured model. I thought I seen some where one yellow but yellow is used for a training aircraft. At a loss to the dull red unless it was a captured one.

PFF · 10-30-2007, 02:56 PM

Thanks very much for answearing query-came across reference to these particular colors on PH aircraft-usually reference on IJN aircraft at Pearl Harbor show red stripes on tails of aircraft. {Different combinations for the different carriers}

10-21-2007, 09:57 AM	#1
PFF Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 30	Yellow or orange banded Vals at Pearl Harbor? Did any carrier "Vals" at Pearl harbor Attack 7 December 1941 have Yellow or orange "tail/belly" bands? if so from what carrier?

10-21-2007, 11:37 AM	#2
syscom3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,283	Good question. If no one here knows the answer, heres a great forum, for all things about Japanese aircraft: J-aircraft.com Main Page __________________ "Pilot to copilot..... what are those mountain goats doing up here in the clouds?"

10-21-2007, 07:39 PM	#5
ccheese Older Than Dirt Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 7,309	Micdrow: What have you got for markings of the "Rufe" seaplane ? I've got a rubber powered balsa model to do after I finish the FW-190 and a BF109. Thanks... Charles __________________ I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either....

10-22-2007, 09:20 AM	#9
Micdrow “Archive” Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,852	I use to know David Aiken, at least though the internet. I believe he is the president of the Pearl Harbor museum in Texas. Knows a great deal on Japanese aircraft. You can usual get in touch with him at J-aircraft.com __________________ "Valor does not mean Hero."

10-22-2007, 12:22 PM	#10
ccheese Older Than Dirt Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 7,309	Micdrow: Thanks for the info. The "Rufe" I have shows it painted a dull red color (?). I think one of yours would look better. Thanks... Charles __________________ I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.... Last edited by ccheese; 10-22-2007 at 12:57 PM.

10-21-2007, 07:13 PM	#4
Wayne Little Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Sth. Aust. Posts: 12,511	hello PFF will respond when I get home from work, tonight.

10-22-2007, 08:57 AM	#8
Wayne Little Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Sth. Aust. Posts: 12,511	There are some "profiles" that indicate only Soryu and Hiryu 'Command' Vals carried yellow command striping on the tails. I don't recall any photo's that confirm this, the detail originates from japanese researchers and historians of PH aircraft via PH veterans and documents compiled for various published articles about PH aircraft, colours, pilots and aircrew.One primary article is "Shinjuwan No 101 K" ( Pearl Harbor and 101 aircraft) by H. Yoshimura, M Asano and David Aiken. I need to find the link to this article for you. All other 'Command' Vals used Red or White tail stripping.

10-22-2007, 02:17 PM	#11
Micdrow “Archive” Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,852	Hi Charles, Dull red, interesting. Could it possible be a captured model. The dark ones above are suppose be a dark green, The others of couse are white. Is it possible that your dark red one is a captured model. I thought I seen some where one yellow but yellow is used for a training aircraft. At a loss to the dull red unless it was a captured one. __________________ "Valor does not mean Hero."

10-30-2007, 02:56 PM	#12
PFF Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 30	reply Thanks very much for answearing query-came across reference to these particular colors on PH aircraft-usually reference on IJN aircraft at Pearl Harbor show red stripes on tails of aircraft. {Different combinations for the different carriers}

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