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02-25-2008, 10:36 PM
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Today I had to attend a Animal Emergency Workshop because I'm part of the CART Team (County Animal Response Team). This stuff came about because of Katrina and now they are making contingencies for people with animals in disaster emergencies. Well, we had to have a table top exercise and the scenario was this - a satelite is shot down and crashes across 3 counties and we have to evacuate all residents and animals.
It was amusing.
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02-25-2008, 10:55 PM
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Country: | Aviation Week & Space Tech. has run articles on this shoot down in last weeks and this weeks magazines. Last weeks article was about how the Navy was going to shoot it down with a MODIFIED missile. Supposedly three missiles were modified for this shoot. This weeks article spent a lot of lines reporting how OUR U.S. CONGRESS was ranting about how this was a thinly disquised plot to show the rest of the world, especially China, that we still have the "Star Wars" capabilities and how they (Congress) were not going to let this happen again. Just makes you want to puke don't it?
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02-25-2008, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by brickhistory  N
Jeez, some of the conspiracy nuts in the world just grate. News flash - BIG pieces of the Shuttle Columbia came down intact including, guess what? That's right, folks, fuel tanks for some of the OMS and manuevering thrusters. | Yep and some people did get sick because of it. I think most of it was limited to burns and lung irritation, but it did happen. | |
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02-26-2008, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by brickhistory Jeez, some of the conspiracy nuts in the world just grate. News flash - BIG pieces of the Shuttle Columbia came down intact including, guess what? That's right, folks, fuel tanks for some of the OMS and manuevering thrusters.
. | Those fuel tanks were mostly empty....REPORTEDLY. 
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02-26-2008, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fly boy the sat was in orbit about may be 56miles above us | I can't remember the source but as I understand it the intercept point was set to be in an area of space where the suns rays would be shining on the sat. so it would absorb some of the heat and this would make its heat signature stand out from the surrounding area. Sounds plausible don't it?
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02-26-2008, 09:46 PM
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| The satellite was being illuminated by the sun and would have had a juicy IR signature.
The solar cells themselves are effective heat radiators.
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02-27-2008, 04:49 AM
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Is there really a UFO at Area 51, or was it all really just a cover-up for Project Mogul, for example...
The US don't tend to reveal these things unless
A) Someone shoots something down and they have to explain it
B) They finally succeed after the hundredth test (at 6 times the original estimated cost) and are proud of it
C) They're trying to take the spotlight off something else
D) They just want to wave the patriotic flag a bit more, "We may be up our eyeballs in corruption and mismanagement, but we're still the biggest and the best!"
or D) All of the above
I would love to travel ahead in time, and see the real reasons behind half the crap that's going on. | |
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02-27-2008, 04:58 AM
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02-27-2008, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by A4K D) They just want to wave the patriotic flag a bit more, "We may be up our eyeballs in corruption and mismanagement, but we're still the biggest and the best!" | And how is that different from any other country? Atleast we can back it up...
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02-27-2008, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by A4K (No offence to you guys BTW, but unfortunately more than a 'fair share' of your countrymen need to get off their high-horse a bit. Alot of people around the world can't stand North Americans in general because of these star-spangled "individuals") | But they sure do love those tourist dollars and US government aid programs don't they? And when the sh-t really hits the fan such as a tsunami or hurricane, earthquake or the like who do "they" call for assistance? It ain't the fuking ghostbusters is it? Don't take this personally A4K, it's not directed at you per se, but it's true. A lot of folks don't like the USA just like you pointed out but that doesn't stop them from sticking their hands out for Uncle Sams green backs does it? | |
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02-28-2008, 02:22 AM
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Country: | I know, you guys definitely are the biggest, but depending on the subject I would query 'the best' - 'the best budgeted' I grant you.
And anyone with any sense knows you don't get Uncle sam's assistance for nothing though, you pay BIG interest for that kind of help. Shame the people in power haven't cottoned onto that yet.
Again, no offence guys, I definitely don't tar ya's all with the same brush. | |
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02-28-2008, 07:51 PM
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Country: | Well, as Doug pointed out, when it comes to some world disaster, the US - on a local level - does seem to respond regardless of political rantings. The tsunamis near India are a good example. Most of that support was from middle-class mucks who, beside having to pay for the house, the car, the government, still was able to give some for someone they would never meet. Not saying other countries also sent support, but a good portion of US citizens - not the government - responded.
And you know we'll take the hits (not 9/11), the bad-mouthing, the evil looks but we'll still be there with a hand to help them up, whoever needs it.
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02-28-2008, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by A4K (No offence to you guys BTW, but unfortunately more than a 'fair share' of your countrymen need to get off their high-horse a bit. Alot of people around the world can't stand North Americans in general because of these star-spangled "individuals") | I'm not star spangled .  
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02-28-2008, 08:08 PM
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A) Someone shoots something down and they have to explain it
| Th reason we shot it down was abundantly clear. The satellite was a hazard, and we needed to remind the PRC that they're decades behind us in space technology Quote: |
B) They finally succeed after the hundredth test (at 6 times the original estimated cost) and are proud of it
| Wrong on the success rate and I would like to see how you get the cost over runs at 600%. My bullsh*t detector is going off on this statement of yours.
And I would be happy to debate you on how often its hard to push the technology on something new without having an occasion failure. Quote: |
C) They're trying to take the spotlight off something else
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D) They just want to wave the patriotic flag a bit more, "We may be up our eyeballs in corruption and mismanagement, but we're still the biggest and the best!"
| Corruption and mismanagement? Care to give us some specifics? or are you a sloganeer?
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03-03-2008, 02:24 AM
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My statements were very much generalities, but believe me, they are based upon the personal knowledge and experiences of myself, and many other people in the 6 different countries I have lived in, not to mention the 13 others I have visited over the last 12 years. I know what I'm talking about, and many Americans do too.
Njaco's and Doug's comments were fairer (and right, especially Njaco's) -I never said you don't do good things aswell  | |
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