anyone know what kind of bomb this is? - Aircraft of World War II

Hogberg · 11-19-2008, 10:01 AM

Hi my name is Emil and im from sweden, i reasently got my hands on this bomb, i think that it is from ww2 but i can be wrong do anyone know what kind it is and who used it ? it got red stipes and some kinde of red sign but its a bit scratched so the colour has gone away, its 28 cm (11 inch) high.

thanks

rochie · 11-19-2008, 10:04 AM

looks like a mortar round to me not realy sure though

ccheese · 11-19-2008, 10:51 AM

Yep.... looks just like a mortar round. I'd be VERY careful with that lest
it goes off.

Charles

Airframes · 11-19-2008, 11:30 AM

I agree with Charles. It is a mortar round, without doubt. It's difficult to tell from the photograph you posted, as the image is too large to view conveniently, but, from the length, I would guess it's a 75mm to 84m Mortar round, or thereabouts. Red markings generally signify a 'Live' round, although again, the actual shape of the markings are difficult to see. Also, from what I could make out, it is possible that at least part of the firing charge is still in place inside the venturi within the tail fin assembly. If it is, this alone can be VERY dangerous! If it IS live, then I would put it down somewhere safe, do not touch it again, and contact the nearest Explosive Ordnance Officer, which you should find in the local area telephone book, probably under Army, Navy, or Air Force - Bomb Disposal. Failing that, contact the Police.
Although it is very possible that this bomb has been deactivated, I would not take any chances, as there SHOULD be markings on it to verify this.
By the shape and design of the fins, it is possible that this is a British round; if so, it is an obsolete design, possibly from the period of the Second World War, or earlier, which means that, if it IS live, it could be very unstable!
Even if it turns out to be inert and perfectly safe, have it checked!
On military ranges, or former battlefields, one of the most dangerous objects to disturb are unexploded mortar rounds; the ratios of serious injury or death, caused be these, is as high as that caused by the 13 million or so unaccounted for land mines across the world.
I'm sorry if this seems somewhat dramatic but, with an unidentified piece of lethal ordnance, you DO NOT TAKE CHANCES!

Bucksnort101 · 11-19-2008, 11:42 AM

I for one, hope this is not the last time we hear from Hogberg? I wouldn't even handle that thing again. Call the autorities and have them come and look it over.

Hogberg · 11-19-2008, 11:44 AM

okeej yea i google'd it and it looks like its a russian mortar from ww2 Russian 82mm and 50mm Mortar (WWII) - Inert-Ord.net

no it can go of becaus its empty

thanks for the help

Hogberg · 11-19-2008, 11:51 AM

it's empty in both the underpart witch i belive is the rocket part who shot it away and in the upper part (the bomb part) so it's really just a empty shell so it shall not explode

thanks for all the help

Doubl3Ac3 · 11-19-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Airframes

I agree with Charles. It is a mortar round, without doubt. It's difficult to tell from the photograph you posted, as the image is too large to view conveniently, but, from the length, I would guess it's a 75mm to 84m Mortar round, or thereabouts. Red markings generally signify a 'Live' round, although again, the actual shape of the markings are difficult to see. Also, from what I could make out, it is possible that at least part of the firing charge is still in place inside the venturi within the tail fin assembly. If it is, this alone can be VERY dangerous! If it IS live, then I would put it down somewhere safe, do not touch it again, and contact the nearest Explosive Ordnance Officer, which you should find in the local area telephone book, probably under Army, Navy, or Air Force - Bomb Disposal. Failing that, contact the Police.
Although it is very possible that this bomb has been deactivated, I would not take any chances, as there SHOULD be markings on it to verify this.
By the shape and design of the fins, it is possible that this is a British round; if so, it is an obsolete design, possibly from the period of the Second World War, or earlier, which means that, if it IS live, it could be very unstable!
Even if it turns out to be inert and perfectly safe, have it checked!
On military ranges, or former battlefields, one of the most dangerous objects to disturb are unexploded mortar rounds; the ratios of serious injury or death, caused be these, is as high as that caused by the 13 million or so unaccounted for land mines across the world.
I'm sorry if this seems somewhat dramatic but, with an unidentified piece of lethal ordnance, you DO NOT TAKE CHANCES!

Yeah..... we could do that. But isnt always better to just put it at a distance and just shoot it?

lol im kidding of course. it is a Mortar round but the question i'd like to ask is how did you ever end up with this???

Airframes · 11-19-2008, 01:37 PM

Hi Double'. Not sure about Canada or the 'States, but in the U.K., and probably Europe and Scandanavia, it's possible to purchase such deactivated ordnance fairly easily, via dealers, arms fairs and so on. Until exactly a year ago, I had been involved for about 14 years lecturing on 20th Century infantry weapons, and the armoury I was provided with contained everything from small-arms ammo up to a field gun and AFVs, not counting the 200 plus weapons! BTW, some of weapons were not deacts!
Happy days, but now I'm too knackered to continue!

timshatz · 11-19-2008, 02:34 PM

[QUOTE=Airframes;420912]some of weapons were not deacts!
QUOTE]

Whoa! There's an underwear change!

Micdrow · 11-19-2008, 06:29 PM

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Doubl3Ac3 · 11-20-2008, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airframes

Hi Double'. Not sure about Canada or the 'States, but in the U.K., and probably Europe and Scandanavia, it's possible to purchase such deactivated ordnance fairly easily, via dealers, arms fairs and so on.

Note to self: Travel to the U.K to buy explosives and blow up a snowman. (My lifelong dream)

seesul · 11-20-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucksnort101

I for one, hope this is not the last time we hear from Hogberg?

Doubl3Ac3 · 11-20-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucksnort101

I for one, hope this is not the last time we hear from Hogberg?

As long as he didnt take my adivce we are good. but its good to hear theres nothing in it. Hmm maybe make a garbage can out of it now?

Hogberg · 11-21-2008, 05:20 AM

anyone know who much this pice of history can be wourth? :P

11-19-2008, 10:04 AM	#2
rochie Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: billingham nr middlesbrough uk Posts: 3,630	looks like a mortar round to me not realy sure though __________________ Last edited by rochie; 11-20-2008 at 08:20 AM.

11-19-2008, 10:51 AM	#3
ccheese Older Than Dirt Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 7,987	Yep.... looks just like a mortar round. I'd be VERY careful with that lest it goes off. Charles __________________ Good people sleep peacefully in their beds at night, only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." George Orwell

11-19-2008, 11:42 AM	#5
Bucksnort101 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,706	I for one, hope this is not the last time we hear from Hogberg? I wouldn't even handle that thing again. Call the autorities and have them come and look it over. __________________ A 2006 study found that the average American walks about 900 miles a year. Another study found that Americans drink an average of 22 gallons of beer a year. That means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles per gallon.

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11-19-2008, 11:30 AM	#4
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 11,529	I agree with Charles. It is a mortar round, without doubt. It's difficult to tell from the photograph you posted, as the image is too large to view conveniently, but, from the length, I would guess it's a 75mm to 84m Mortar round, or thereabouts. Red markings generally signify a 'Live' round, although again, the actual shape of the markings are difficult to see. Also, from what I could make out, it is possible that at least part of the firing charge is still in place inside the venturi within the tail fin assembly. If it is, this alone can be VERY dangerous! If it IS live, then I would put it down somewhere safe, do not touch it again, and contact the nearest Explosive Ordnance Officer, which you should find in the local area telephone book, probably under Army, Navy, or Air Force - Bomb Disposal. Failing that, contact the Police. Although it is very possible that this bomb has been deactivated, I would not take any chances, as there SHOULD be markings on it to verify this. By the shape and design of the fins, it is possible that this is a British round; if so, it is an obsolete design, possibly from the period of the Second World War, or earlier, which means that, if it IS live, it could be very unstable! Even if it turns out to be inert and perfectly safe, have it checked! On military ranges, or former battlefields, one of the most dangerous objects to disturb are unexploded mortar rounds; the ratios of serious injury or death, caused be these, is as high as that caused by the 13 million or so unaccounted for land mines across the world. I'm sorry if this seems somewhat dramatic but, with an unidentified piece of lethal ordnance, you DO NOT TAKE CHANCES!

11-19-2008, 11:44 AM	#6
Hogberg Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4	okeej yea i google'd it and it looks like its a russian mortar from ww2 Russian 82mm and 50mm Mortar (WWII) - Inert-Ord.net no it can go of becaus its empty thanks for the help

11-19-2008, 11:51 AM	#7
Hogberg Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4	it's empty in both the underpart witch i belive is the rocket part who shot it away and in the upper part (the bomb part) so it's really just a empty shell so it shall not explode thanks for all the help

11-19-2008, 01:37 PM	#9
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 11,529	Hi Double'. Not sure about Canada or the 'States, but in the U.K., and probably Europe and Scandanavia, it's possible to purchase such deactivated ordnance fairly easily, via dealers, arms fairs and so on. Until exactly a year ago, I had been involved for about 14 years lecturing on 20th Century infantry weapons, and the armoury I was provided with contained everything from small-arms ammo up to a field gun and AFVs, not counting the 200 plus weapons! BTW, some of weapons were not deacts! Happy days, but now I'm too knackered to continue!

11-19-2008, 02:34 PM	#10
timshatz Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Phila, Pa Posts: 3,816	[QUOTE=Airframes;420912]some of weapons were not deacts! QUOTE] Whoa! There's an underwear change!

11-21-2008, 05:20 AM	#15
Hogberg Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4	anyone know who much this pice of history can be wourth? :P