New Member - F4U Builder(s)

findlayma · 01-17-2007, 12:37 PM

Hello All,

I along with my son, Jeff, (an F-18E strike pilot) are starting to build (or rebuild) an F4U-4. We've gotten permission from Vought to obtain copies of all the drawings and we soon will be ordering some of the 60 reels of drawings available from the National Archives. We're also persuing an R-2800 engine. I have a fair amount of experience sucessfully building aircraft (albeit much smaller).

Any help or comments about where parts/jigs, etc. might be found for our undertaking would be appreciated.

Thank You,
Dale

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 01-17-2007, 12:55 PM

Wow that would be great fun. To bad I live overseas at the moment, I would love to help you build it.

the lancaster kicks ass · 01-17-2007, 01:18 PM

yes that's quite a project we've never had anything quite this abitious on the site yet- you say you have some experience, with which aircraft may i ask?

oh, welcome and all that jazz.......

findlayma · 01-17-2007, 01:20 PM

This may sound strange but if you're serious there is a lot of work that can be done at different parts of the world. It's only when all the subassemblies are ready that final assembly can begin. My son, Jeff, is located at Lemoore NAS in California and I'm in Massachusetts. Because there are no more available "originial" A/C to scavenge parts from; the vast majority will need to be make from drawing. If you're a qualified pilot then your reward could be to actually fly her when finished.

the lancaster kicks ass · 01-17-2007, 01:24 PM

we have a 5 ton lathe powered by a 2.3 litre diesel engine if you've got any big job farmers can do

findlayma · 01-17-2007, 01:27 PM

In 1975 I built the first "non-factory" BD-5, a small pusher prop aircraft designed by Jim Bede and Burt Rutan. In 1978, I built and developed a Lycoming engine installation for Rutan's new Varieze , a canard configuration, pusher prop aircraft.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 01-17-2007, 04:13 PM

Well I have an A&P and a PPL but I have no place to do any work here in Germany. I tell you though it would be fun.

findlayma · 01-18-2007, 12:43 PM

As many of you know; building essentially from scratch a full size F4U-4 is no small undertaking. It’ll require many years of dedicated effort (10+) and skills in many, many areas of aircraft construction along with engine overhaul and maintenance abilities.

My two sons and I realize that we can use all the help we can get… and then some. We’re hopeful that the concept of building such an aircraft will enthuse many individuals to become involved. Using modern techniques for cutting materials and forming the complex parts will be a significant part of the effort. Currently, all detail drawings of the aircraft are on microfilm reels (60 reels @ $68/ea). Thousands of drawings will need to be converted to CAD system (vector) drawings so that computer controlled machines such as lathes and millers can be programmed to make the parts. It certainly is not as simple as the previous statement might have made it sound but it is feasible.

We plan to establish a dedicated Web site for the F4U project (hopefully with links to and from this great site) to provide an organized data/communication location for those that choose to be part of this endeavor. As I’ve indicated in past comments, one of the possible rewards for working on this project could include, depending on the level of contribution and pilot experience, a the chance to fly “her” . Other rewards would be gaining knowledge in how to actually build an aircraft and all the processes that takes along with being part of the “team”.

If this F4U-4 project is something you may wish to be a part of then either let me or my son, Jeff, know via email (dale.findlay@sylvania.com or findlayjs@hotmail.com)

Thanks for reading,

Dale

Emilian · 01-18-2007, 05:30 PM

Maybe this is what I need for my F4U-1 general arrangement drawings. Do the 60 rolls of film include drawings for the F4U-1? By National Archives, are you referring to the NASM or are the National Archives something different? (I have been looking for main wing and tail construction drawings).

joebong · 01-19-2007, 12:41 AM

I don't know if it helps, but there's a place in Sunland Ca. called "Aircraft cylinders", said cylinders are dry storage for Wright's and P&W's. I can get the number if you wish. good luck.

findlayma · 01-19-2007, 07:10 AM

Emilan.... National Archives and Records Administration
Special Media Archives Services Division (Cartographic)
Archives II
8601 Adelphi Road
College Park, Maryland 20740-6001

I've asked for drawings of the F4U-4. Many would be the same as the -1 but with the -4 being "newer" there would be numerous differences but exactly what I'm not sure at this point. I'm not a expert on the F4U... yet.

joebong.... I assume you're refering to "Aircraft Cylinder and Turbine" in Sun Valley, Ca. Already spoken to Javiar there about an engine
Thanks for the good luck wish.

Dale

Wayne Little · 01-20-2007, 04:57 PM

Hello and welcome to the site, best of luck with your project.

the lancaster kicks ass · 01-21-2007, 03:40 AM

any pictures of anything you've done so far?

YakFlyer · 01-22-2007, 04:17 PM

Good luck with it. Having a website up and running is a great idea, for interaction ,and communication. The Fw190 White 1 foundation has a similar thing happening.
All the best.
Andrew

bigZ · 01-22-2007, 07:19 PM

What Cad software are using?

I use AutoCad2005 and am dabbling in Solidworks (Perhaps I could draw a few parts for fun). At present am putting the finishing touches to a 3 axis CNC machine am building.

Cool plane the Bede 5. Especially fond of the jet version that apperaed in the James Bond movie.

Good luck and post some shot of progress.