Why?

Hunter368 · 02-23-2007, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chingachgook

I think there are some good people here, and a few good resources, but I have stopped referring this sight to anyone. I do not wish to be a proponent of a toilet mouthed offensive class of people (moderators). [I have no knowledge of the incedent between Emac and Yakpilot but that sounds like it ended just fine].
I check in from time to time because pbfoot, evangilder, wurger, FLYBOYJ, mkloby, matt308, are all great people, shame about a few of the rest...
Apologies to Alder, because I am not referring to him. However, he should not talk about being thick skinned... he isn't (and neither am I).
Civility can exist in cyberspace - I can give a long list of forums and newsgroups where it does. If the moderator (s) set a bad example then this is what you get. I am glad that I am not the only one who sees it. It is too bad really. Perhaps they will clean it up and set some standards.
One only has to read a few posts to know that evangilder is a class act, this site deserves to live up to his level.

Ching,

Whatever happened between you and Les/Dan it could not of been any worse than when I joined the site and Dan and I went at it for about 10 pages back and forth. Believe me we both said alot of bad things.....I am surprised now that I was not banned, not sure why I was not (not sure if you remember that arguement or not Dan). What started the arguement was I was bashing USA, Joe and Dan called me on it. After a few days I realized they were right, I was being a azzhole, I said I was sorry. They have made me a better poster and forum user.

But all the Mods are good people, including Dan. I am not brown nosing or hanging off their balls by saying this. They are straight shooters, they call it as they see it. You can argue with them, just be respective and they will be fine. Show tone or be disrespectful and yes you will feel their wrath. You need to have a little bit of thick skin.

Like Dan said this site is run with a iron hand, if you come here thinking you are going to take over or kick peoples azz you will be shown the door. I never have a problem with rules as long as I know the rules up front. You know the rules here....follow them and you will be fine. Get out of line and yes the Mods (Dan the hardest most times) will come down on you.

Keep in mind most of us here are men. Mods are ex-military people. Most of us don't mind rough banter, thats what we are used to. I have never been in the military but I have managed mechanics (7 years) and managed a warehouse full of nothing but blue color hard working men (9 years). I call it shop talk, you call it toilet mouthed...same thing. Most of us are used to it, we have thick skin.

Believe me if Horse (site admin) thought Dan or any other Mod was not doing a good job they would be replaced. This site is Horse's site, he choses the Mods.

But it of course your choice stay or leave it's up to you. I have seen some of your posts and you could add to this site, b/c of that I would like to see you stay.

Aggie,

As far as certain people being "picked on" you need to give detailed accounts of such, vague comments do nothing but get people ticked off. I will say this I never have seen anyone "picked on" that didn't deserve it. Some people that have come here were real dumbazz and we are better off without them. We want this site to be filled with knowledgable respectful people who can all help us expand our knowledge of WW2, most of all on WW2 planes. While it is funny to have a newbie around to burn every once in while we want good quality people here (that and hot babes but I have seen none yet, damn, just a bunch ugly slack jawwed bastards around here).

If I was you Aggie I would not post general vague statements that just stir up trouble. If you are really concerned about it PM a Mod about it or drop it totally. I don't feel this thread was a good idea, I think you should of went about it a different way. IMO

Gnomey · 02-23-2007, 05:00 PM

The way I see it is thus: this site is run how it is and has been run as such for the whole time since I have been here (which is a long time), it works. It keeps the sh*t out and so keeps a balance of people who want to learn against those who just want to create trouble. Besides when did a little swearing harm anyone, for fu*k sake it is the internet it isn't exactly like if you offend someone or someone offends you there are going to come around your house and shoot you for crying out loud. Why can't anyone take the fact that they lost an argument. Just because someone (generally les but that doesn't matter) swears at you and calls you a stupid fu*king noob or an @sshole etc doesn't mean you have to curl up and die that is just fu*king stupid. You know the moderators have the power and generally they use it effectively and yes people will disagree with the means (since when did everyone agree that something was done correctly?). For fu*ksake shut up or put up and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Totally agree with your post as well pb.

Matt308 · 02-23-2007, 05:09 PM

I wondered why I could not see them. As an observer, I wanted to know what the fuss was about. Where's Rodney King when you need him. Alas, probably in jail.

Hunter368 · 02-23-2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnomey

The way I see it is thus: this site is run how it is and has been run as such for the whole time since I have been here (which is a long time), it works. It keeps the sh*t out and so keeps a balance of people who want to learn against those who just want to create trouble. Besides when did a little swearing harm anyone, for fu*k sake it is the internet it isn't exactly like if you offend someone or someone offends you there are going to come around your house and shoot you for crying out loud. Why can't anyone take the fact that they lost an argument. Just because someone (generally les but that doesn't matter) swears at you and calls you a stupid fu*king noob or an @sshole etc doesn't mean you have to curl up and die that is just fu*king stupid. You know the moderators have the power and generally they use it effectively and yes people will disagree with the means (since when did everyone agree that something was done correctly?). For fu*ksake shut up or put up and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Totally agree with your post as well pb.

Gnomey,

pB? Are you confusing me with pB? We both are Canadian but I am wayyyy younger and better looking. LOL

I agree with you Gnomey just b/c someone (often Dan) calls you a dick or noob does mean anything.

Ching and Aggie,

Do you really care if I or Chris or Dan or anyone else calls you a "bad name"? I could not give a rats azz if someone call me a name....why should I? Who are they? Do I really care who they are? no

Really guys you need to grow some thicker skin. Like I said before I am not sure what your back grounds are in life but I will tell you this I would be very surprised if you told me you were ever in the military or worked a hard honest blue color job. You guys are coming off a little like pencil pushing or bean counting office workers who get mad when their latte is too strong or their best friend has not called them in weeks so are you are so "upset".

Belly up boys act like men grow some skin.

Gnomey · 02-23-2007, 05:21 PM

Yes, I was Hunter. Sorry about that, sometimes I think the two of you are the same person

Emac44 · 02-23-2007, 05:23 PM

You still want that beer Yak. Not coming into this fight what so ever

Matt308 · 02-23-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunter368

You guys are coming off a little like pencil pushing or bean counting office workers who get mad when their latte is too strong or their best friend has not called them in weeks so are you are so "upset".

Hey that's hitting a little too close to home.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 02-23-2007, 05:37 PM

Oh brother!

Seriously people. The way this place is run is like this. If you really want to be here, then there is no problem with any mod. Your stay will be long and enjoyable.

If you are not a serious aviation scholar then you will be obvious as to not really wanting to be here...

Oh and Ching trust me my skin is thick enough. As long as they dont offend my family, my honor, or my service to my country I dont care what anyone says about me. However if they do want to get into a pissing match they better be thick skinned because I will hold nothing back.

I am actually fairly laid back. I am easy going. I am kind and friendly, but if you piss me off...

Hunter368 · 02-23-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt308

Hey that's hitting a little too close to home.

Well if you are a pencil pusher/ bean counter then you must of smuggled your manhood into the office. You still have some good left in you from your military days. Give it another 10 years and you manhood will shivel up and disappear.

lesofprimus · 02-23-2007, 05:40 PM

Shrivel up and disappear??? U talkin from personal experience hunter lol??

Matt308 · 02-23-2007, 05:43 PM

Nope Hunter, not a military man. Closest I've gotten is working navy shipyard on Arleigh Class missile cruiser and fast frigates and bumping butts with DoD brass in aviation circles. You've got me confused with someone of honor and integrity.

Hunter368 · 02-23-2007, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lesofprimus

Shrivel up and disappear??? U talkin from personal experience hunter lol??

Hey buddy you are older than me and far closer to needing viagra!

Hunter368 · 02-23-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt308

Nope Hunter, not a military man. Closest I've gotten is working navy shipyard on Arleigh Class missile cruiser and fast frigates and bumping butts with DoD brass in aviation circles. You've got me confused with someone of honor and integrity.

Really you were never in the military? Damn!! I thought you had.

Well now I have just lost soooo much respect for you, crap I was cutting slack all this time b/c I thought you were a ex-military guy.

Matt308 · 02-23-2007, 05:48 PM

Nah. Feel free to disrespect me all you want. I grew as a Marine's son. It kinda like being in the Navy, but with more severe consequences.

Hunter368 · 02-23-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt308

Nah. Feel free to disrespect me all you want. I grew as a Marine's son. It kinda like being in the Navy, but with more severe consequences.

Yes I could see that. Could you imagine having Dan as your Father? Yikes

It would be like have a Father that was 1/4 Darth Vader and 1/4 Emperor Palpatine and 1/4 Boba Fett and 1/4 Morgoth.