German rod and part of crankshaft? ENGINE EXPERTS WELCOME!
EnginesDiscuss German rod and part of crankshaft? ENGINE EXPERTS WELCOME! in the Technical forums; Originally Posted by Dolpho
This may help to identify The Parts of the Engine:
1: upperhalf of the bearing support
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This may help to identify The Parts of the Engine:
1: upperhalf of the bearing support
2:cylinder barrel
3: piston pin
4: articulated rod
5: master rod
6: crankshaft
In item two, where are the piston ring serrations?
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Thanks for paying so much interest in my topic. You are all a great help!
I do believe that the piston is part of a DB engine. So I guess it is a Bf 109 G-6/U4. (U4 because of the 3 cm) The location could fit to Uffz. Hanz Kemmerling, of 2. Staffel JG302, Bf109 G-6 "Red 6", WNr. 441 795. But that is only a first suspect. Could also be JG27 or JG 300. Unfortunately I do not have a date when it crashed.
The only color parts I could find were light grey and some had light blue on them.
@ Erich: If have lot of respect about amunition. Especially about german 3 cm because I do not know how they work. Last time I visited this crashplace I noticed at least three 3 cm bullets. One was cut open almost the whole way so I looked at it closer. It was empty at all. At home I could identify it as 3 cm Minengeschoss Leuchtspur mit Zerleger (http://www.xs4all.nl/~robdebie/me163/weapons15.htm). On the outside there were fragments of yellow color. The head was missing. The other two were headless too but they seemed to be still full with HA41. Could they still explode?
On other tiny parts I found stampings. Two are round with "Erla 54", and "Erla 22". There was a tube with "NW 25" and something else on it I could not identify. And an angular stamping "BA 9409".
Kurtl I would not have any of the fine filment contents anywhere near you, yes I have heard of major accidents in Europe when 2cm and 3cm were unearthed.
let me do some more research on JG 302 and I think we talked about this the two of us several months ago correct ?
Hello Flyboy, you can´t see the piston ( 7 ) . The foto show thr cylinderbarrel. The thread at the bottomend is for fixing the cylinderbank with a special nut (. You will see it only on DB engines. Sorry i have no scanner for a better picture.
The numbers are the same from yesterday.
Hello Flyboy, you can´t see the piston ( 7 ) . The foto show thr cylinderbarrel. The thread at the bottomend is for fixing the cylinderbank with a special nut (. You will see it only on DB engines. Sorry i have no scanner for a better picture.
The numbers are the same from yesterday.
Ok - but look at the original photo and the cut away of the 601. I circled the areas I'm talking about. There are no serration for the piston rings and no oil passages visible on the article piston.
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Hello Flyboyj, I found a foto of a DB 605. The engine mounting is a swedish one. On Kurtls foto you can only see the cylinderbarrel ( 2 ), not the piston ( 7, 10 ). Number 9 are the pistonrings. Number 11 is the thread for fixing the cylinderbarrel into the cylinderbank. The piston is inside of the cylinderbarrel, so you can not see it
@ Erich: Yes, we were talking about 25th July, 1944. Think that according Willi Reschke's book the JG 302 lost 4 Me109G's around that area. I'm pretty sure that I already located Uffz. Günter Richter's "Yellow 7". Erich do you think that there is any more information (except Reschke's book) about JG 302/301 available?
I believe that this second crashplace of obviously another Me 109 could fit to Uffz. Kemmerling. The book tells a name of a small town that this close to that place.
Do you have an idea if Reschke is still alive? I already have his adress. - Kurtl
this is from either a DB 601 or a 605. I would have to check the part numbers. The cylinder barrel has threads at the bottom to attach it to the crankcase. the next set of threads are where the barrel is screwed into the head and bank casting. The main cap has the cross bolt through the middle, with the four studs to hold it into the crankcase. the nuts are called notched nuts in the manual. there are splines on the outside for the socket to turn the nuts. the number of splines on the nuts are 54 and 58. I have rebuilt two of these engines and made the tooling for these nuts myself. the alum part at the end of the piston pin is the remains of the mushroom or pin retainer. it slid into the hole in the pin and had a large round end that just floated on the cylinder and kept the pin in place.
...a friend of Joe Owsianik, a former left waist gunner from B-17G ''Tail End Charlie" from 2ndBG,20th Sqdn, that was forced to bail out on Aug. 29th, 1944 over my country.
. You will see it only on DB engines. Sorry i have no scanner for a better picture.
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