P&W R-1830-92 - Aircraft of World War II

math1733 · 01-24-2009, 08:32 AM

Hello,

I'm looking after a parts catalog of the P&W R-1830-92.

I also like to know which kind of hydraulic pump, fuel pump fit this engine.

Does someone has this?

Thanks

FLYBOYJ · 01-24-2009, 10:05 AM

Hydraulic - Might be a Pesco 1P583DE

Fuel - Might be a Pesco An4101

I assume your looking for the engine driven pump, not a boost pump.

Hope this helps!

math1733 · 01-24-2009, 10:30 AM

Yes this helps, I'm looking for all the information I can find on this engine to motorize a Fw190 full scale replica

Thanks

FLYBOYJ · 01-24-2009, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by math1733

Yes this helps, I'm looking for all the information I can find on this engine to motorize a Fw190 full scale replica

Thanks

If you're looking for those part try these guys;

Warbird Relics

math1733 · 01-24-2009, 10:56 AM

Excellent, thanks

May I ask for the type of oil pump, Oil cooler and the fuel booster pump?

FLYBOYJ · 01-24-2009, 11:25 AM

I think the oil pump migght be made by Pesco or Bendix, I can't find a part number. As far as the oil cooler and fuel boost pump, I'm not finding much in my references, I think there are several manufacturers.

math1733 · 01-24-2009, 01:44 PM

Ok, thanks for your help

bobm4360 · 01-25-2009, 12:25 AM

You might also try Precision Engines, 425-347-2800. They are THE rebuild facility for P&W radials, 1830-up, and they have some manuals for sale. Also consider the P&W R-2000. Designed to run on 100/115, so no derating with the lousy gas you get now. Same mounts, 1" larger diameter, 200 lbs heavier, and 250 more HP. (Specs from P&W Installation Manual)

I think Flug Werke's "kit" for US customers was also set up for the R-2000.

Bob

bobm4360 · 01-25-2009, 12:51 AM

The pumps you are looking for are not in either the -92 or Twin Wasp S1C3G parts manuals. They are probably in the DC-3/C-47 manuals in the engine and hydraulics sections. Unfortunately, I don't have the aircraft manuals.

Bob

math1733 · 01-25-2009, 05:27 AM

Thanks for "Precision Engines", great shop.

I've already thought about a R2000 but I'm doing a Jurca replica and the maximum power allowed is 1250 Hp. One has already flown in Germany and was made by Ulrich Bronner (see the picture).

What is the difference between a -92 and a S1C3G ?

I'm also looking about the type of accessoiries we could find in a Wildcat. It was the same engine and it's much more the same size in comparition of a DC3

HoHun · 01-25-2009, 08:54 AM

Hi Marcel,

>What is the difference between a -92 and a S1C3G ?

This file (from Reference) might be of interest for you as it lists the R-1830 variants and their manufacturer, military and civilian designations:

http://www.enginehistory.org/P&W/R-1830/R-1830Index.pdf

Then again, it maybe lacks the kind of detail information you need. But at least it should be worth a quick look! :-)

Regards,

Henning (HoHun)

math1733 · 01-25-2009, 09:24 AM

Great, thanks

So if I understand well, the R1830-92 and the S1C3G are the same.

I have the maintenance manual here if someone needs it

How ever, I'm looking for the parts catalog of this engine, If someone has it or know where I can download or buy it...

Mathieu

Micdrow · 01-25-2009, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by math1733

Great, thanks

So if I understand well, the R1830-92 and the S1C3G are the same.

I have the maintenance manual here if someone needs it

How ever, I'm looking for the parts catalog of this engine, If someone has it or know where I can download or buy it...

Mathieu

Sorry dont have a maintenance manual but many thanks for the manual. Also will move this to whole thread to the engine manual area.

bobm4360 · 01-25-2009, 04:39 PM

Accessories, pumps and such, are all about the same size. The DC-3/C-47 is the most common use for the 1830, and therefore, the most spares. The fuel pump requirement is the same, and the Wildcat doesn't use hydraulic gear retraction. Nice project!
Bob

math1733 · 01-25-2009, 05:02 PM

I think you're right.
The best to do is a usual R1830 environnement except for the oil tank that I need more "aerobatic" or at least more compact like a mustang or T6 one's and a smaller hydraulic accumulator.

Mathieu

01-24-2009, 08:32 AM	#1
math1733 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 15	P&W R-1830-92 Hello, I'm looking after a parts catalog of the P&W R-1830-92. I also like to know which kind of hydraulic pump, fuel pump fit this engine. Does someone has this? Thanks

01-24-2009, 10:05 AM	#2
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,049	Hydraulic - Might be a Pesco 1P583DE Fuel - Might be a Pesco An4101 I assume your looking for the engine driven pump, not a boost pump. Hope this helps! __________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"

01-24-2009, 11:25 AM	#6
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,049	I think the oil pump migght be made by Pesco or Bendix, I can't find a part number. As far as the oil cooler and fuel boost pump, I'm not finding much in my references, I think there are several manufacturers. __________________ "IF ITS RED OR DUSTY, DON'T TOUCH IT"

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01-24-2009, 10:30 AM	#3
math1733 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 15	Yes this helps, I'm looking for all the information I can find on this engine to motorize a Fw190 full scale replica Thanks

01-24-2009, 10:56 AM	#5
math1733 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 15	Excellent, thanks May I ask for the type of oil pump, Oil cooler and the fuel booster pump?

01-24-2009, 01:44 PM	#7
math1733 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 15	Ok, thanks for your help

01-25-2009, 12:25 AM	#8
bobm4360 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 11	You might also try Precision Engines, 425-347-2800. They are THE rebuild facility for P&W radials, 1830-up, and they have some manuals for sale. Also consider the P&W R-2000. Designed to run on 100/115, so no derating with the lousy gas you get now. Same mounts, 1" larger diameter, 200 lbs heavier, and 250 more HP. (Specs from P&W Installation Manual) I think Flug Werke's "kit" for US customers was also set up for the R-2000. Bob

01-25-2009, 12:51 AM	#9
bobm4360 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 11	The pumps you are looking for are not in either the -92 or Twin Wasp S1C3G parts manuals. They are probably in the DC-3/C-47 manuals in the engine and hydraulics sections. Unfortunately, I don't have the aircraft manuals. Bob

01-25-2009, 08:54 AM	#11
HoHun Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,765	Hi Marcel, >What is the difference between a -92 and a S1C3G ? This file (from Reference) might be of interest for you as it lists the R-1830 variants and their manufacturer, military and civilian designations: http://www.enginehistory.org/P&W/R-1830/R-1830Index.pdf Then again, it maybe lacks the kind of detail information you need. But at least it should be worth a quick look! :-) Regards, Henning (HoHun)

01-25-2009, 04:39 PM	#14
bobm4360 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 11	Accessories, pumps and such, are all about the same size. The DC-3/C-47 is the most common use for the 1830, and therefore, the most spares. The fuel pump requirement is the same, and the Wildcat doesn't use hydraulic gear retraction. Nice project! Bob

01-25-2009, 05:02 PM	#15
math1733 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 15	I think you're right. The best to do is a usual R1830 environnement except for the oil tank that I need more "aerobatic" or at least more compact like a mustang or T6 one's and a smaller hydraulic accumulator. Mathieu