propeller question

[lexy]

Hi guys,

i have registred myself to ask you experts a question.


a friend of mine bought a propeller that was found in the sea near Calais many years ago.

Can anybody identifie this propeller based on these pictures?

Thanks for your help.



Alex

[FLYBOYJ]

Can you get photos of the hub area, font and back? Also any numbers and stamps would be helpful. The prop was not spinning when it crashed.

[lexy]

Okey, i see what i can do.

There will probably be no more stamps visible due to the time it has spend in the sea. It was fished up by a French fisherman in the 50's and then it was displayed in his garden for a long time.

We did find a bullet hole in one of the propellers.

Ill try to get more pics quicly.

Thanks.

[dairwin]

Doesn't look like a Rotol or Ham Standard. More detailed photos can only help.

DAI

[vikingBerserker]

Very cool

[dairwin]

Having a further look (and until we see better photos); prop is non-feathered, right hand rotation, with variable pitch mechanism and significant assembly on rear of hub. Rather like a Bf 109.

See this video; specifically freeze frame at 1:48 and then again at 1:55. Prop retaining assembly has lateral holes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QP16...eature=related

[lexy]

Thanks for the video, very helpfull indeed, im working on those detailed pics for you guys.

thanks

[A4K]

Yep, first glance it looks German to me, like a Bf 109E or Bf 110C/D prop. Looking forward to your details on her.

[Airframes]

Yep, cetainly looks like the profile of a '109 prop, either 'E' or early 'F'. From what's shown so far, I'd guess at a Bf109F, with the central bore for the cannon.

[stona]

Very brave chaps! I do think that it is German,given the limited information in the piccies,so you could be correct.
Cheers
Steve

[FLYBOYJ]

Possibly a VDM prop!

http://www.enginehistory.org/Convent...20Electric.pdf

[Airframes]

If it is a '109 prop, then it's almost certainly from VDM. The perforated 'tube' in the hub is consistent with a cannon installation. Here is a pic of an engine from a Bf109G, recovered recently, after the air battle over the White Carpathian (Czech Republic), which took place in August 1944.Where the actual cannon barrel is bent from impact, it 'slotted' through the tubular guide in the prop hub, not present on the '109E, and the '109F had a similar guide tube.
Be interesting to know which aircraft it came from - being recovered near Calais, a pure guess would be a kite from possibly JG26 ?

[Ivan1GFP]

Hi Lexy,

If I were you, I would get a really good picture of the blade at the root. That flare suggests to me that it isn't a 109E. The other thing to check is to run a tape measure from the center of the hub to the tip of the most intact blade while following the bends and see if you can measure the diameter. The 109E and 109F used different diameter props.

- Ivan.

[lexy]

Hello all,

first of all, thanks for the help so far.

Today we managed to put an axle true the prop an mount it on the wall.

It realy looks great and will be the centrepiece of the collection when it will all be finished.

We measured the most intact blade from the beginning and the length is about 155 centimetres.

I also took lots of new pics and these may help to identifie it.

There is one picture with the bullethole.

Again, thanks for the help.

Kind regards,

Alex

[herman1rg]

I have no idea personally but it looks great.