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| Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lazio
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| R-2800, BMW801, M-82, Homare, Kinsei, Kasei, Ha-41/109 For this engines i look for max continous power at FTH, and for max power (w and w/o injection) ever at FTH, and the respective engine setting (rpm and pressure). Only engine variants on WWII fighters. PW R-2800 (-8,-10, 18, 21, 63, 59, 57, 77) BMW 801 (C, D, S) Shvetsov M-82 ( , F, FN) Nakajima Homare (Ha-45) (-11, -12, -21, -43) Mitsubishi Kinsei (Ha-33) (-62) Mitsubishi Kasei (Ha-32) (-23, -26) Nakajima Ha-41/109 (Ha-34) (-01, -11) Last edited by Vincenzo; 06-28-2009 at 11:04 AM. Reason: add variants |
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| from the source linked from Gibbage R-2800-10 max continuous 1500 hp at 21500' at 2550 rpm (pressure not indicated) military (maybe not max) 1650 hp at 22500' at 2700 rpm (pressure non indicated) R-2800-18 max cont. 1550 hp at 26000' at 2600 rpm (pressure not indicated) military (maybe not max) 1800 hp at 23000' at 2800 rpm (pressure not indicated) R-2800-21 max cont. 1625 hp at 25000' at 2550 rpm (pressure not indicated) military (maybe not max) 2000 hp at 25000' at 2700 rpm (pressure not indicated) R-2800-57 max cont. 1700 hp at 30000' at 2600 rpm (p.n.i.) military (m.n.m.) 2100 hp at 30000' at 2800 rpm (p.n.i.) R-2800-59 max cont. 1625 hp at 25000' at 2550 rpm (pressure not indicated) military (maybe not max) 2000 hp at 25000' at 2700 rpm (pressure not indicated) R-2800-63 max cont. 1625 hp at 25000' at 2550 rpm (pressure not indicated) military (maybe not max) 2000 hp at 25000' at 2700 rpm (pressure not indicated) R-2800-77 ax cont. 1700 hp at 30000' at 2600 rpm (p.n.i.) military (m.n.m.) 2100 hp at 30000' at 2800 rpm (p.n.i.) from an other page on engine history (reading it's not easy) R-2800-8 "normal" 1550 hp at 21500' at 2550 rpm (pressure not indicated) military (maybe not max) 1650 hp at 22500' at 2700 rpm (pressure non indicated) R-2800-10 same of -8 R-2800-18 "normal" 1550 hp at 26000' at 2600 rpm (pressure not indicated) military (maybe not max) 1800 hp at 23000' at 2800 rpm (pressure not indicated) R-2800-21 "normal" 1625 hp at 25000' at 2550 rpm (pressure not indicated) military (maybe not max) 2000 hp at 25000' at 2700 rpm (pressure not indicated) R-2800-59 "normal" 1625 hp at 25000' at 2600 rpm (pressure not indicated) military (maybe not max) 2000 hp at 25000' at 2700 rpm (pressure not indicated) R-2800-63 "normal" 1625 hp at 25000' at 2550 rpm (pressure not indicated) military (maybe not max) 2000 hp at 25000' at 2700 rpm (pressure not indicated) R-2800-57 "normal" 1700 hp at 26500' at 2600 rpm (p.n.i.) military (m.n.m.) 2100 hp at 28500'at 2800 rpm (p.n.i.) R-2800-77 "normal" 1700 hp at 26500' at 2600 rpm (p.n.i.) military (m.n.m.) 2100 hp at 26500'at 2800 rpm (p.n.i.) from data on wwiiaircraftperformance.org R-2800-8 normal 1550 hp at 22000' (23800') at 2550 rpm (49.5'' Hg), miltary 1650 hp at 21000' (22800') at 2700 rpm (52.5'' Hg), water injection 1975 hp at 16900' (20300') at 2700 rpm (60'' Hg) (note british climb at 44'' Hg/2550 rpm, combat at 52.5''/2700 rpm) R-2800-18 normal 1550 hp at 26000' at 2600 rpm, military 1800 hp at 23000' at 2800 rpm, R-2800-10 rated at 2550 rpm (39'' Hg), all out 2700 rpm (52'' Hg) (british) R-2800-10 normal 1550 hp at 22500' at 2550 rpm, military 1650 hp at 21000' (22500') at 2700 rpm (52.5'' Hg), water injection 1975 hp at 16900' (60'' Hg) (british climb/continous 44'' Hg/2550rpm, combat (5') 52.5''Hg/2700 rpm, combat with water 60'' Hg/2700 rpm) R-2800-21 rated 1625 hp at 30000' at 2550 rpm (40'' hg) military 2000 hp at 27000' at 2700 rpm (52''Hg) R-2800-63 water injection 2260 hp at 27500' at 2700 rpm (56'' hg) (2330 hp at 15000' same other but turbo) standard called 2300 hp at 27000' Hg possible upped 65'' or 66'' with and w/o water injection in summer '44 or late R-2800-57 normal 1835 hp at 25000' at 2600 rpm (42.5'' Hg), military 2225 hp at 25000' at 2800 rpm (53'' Hg), water injection 2800 rpm (72'' Hg) no table the plane crashed trouble for maintenance a this setting of power from Tzaw1 pdf: R-2800-21, -59, -63 continous 1450 hp at 13300' at 2400 rpm (43'' Hg) R-2800-57, -77 continous 1600 hp at 16200' at 2600 rpm (45'' Hg) take all with a grain of salt: R-2800-8 and -10, basically same engine, normal (continous) 1550 hp at 2550 rpm (39'' Hg) at 21000'+, military 1650 hp at 2700 rpm (52.5'' Hg) at 21000'+, water injection (if available, w variants) 1975 hp at 2700 rpm (60'' Hg) at 16000'+ R-2800-21, -59, -63 basically same engine, normal (continous) 1625 hp at 2550 rpm (40'' Hg) at 25000'+, military 2000 hp at 2700 rpm (52'' Hg) at 25000'+, water injection (-59 and -63) 2300 hp at 2700 rpm (56'' Hg) at 27000'+, possibly boost later increased at 65'' or 66'' Hg R-2800-18 normal (continous) 1550 hp at 2600 rpm (? Hg) at 26000'+, military 1800 hp at 2800 rpm (? Hg) at 23000'+, water injection data non available R-2800-57 and 77, basically same engine, normal (continous) at 2600 rpm (42.5'' Hg), military at 2800 rpm (53'' Hg), water injection at 2800 rpm (72'' Hg) maybe reduced?? Last edited by Vincenzo; 06-30-2009 at 09:27 AM. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Warszawa
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| In this paper from FAA are data of R-2800: |
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| | #5 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lazio
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| nobody have info for others engines?? |
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009
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| Regarding Japanese look here: List of Japanese radial engines showing dimensions, displacement etc. Translated version of http://www.warbirds.jp/kakuki/sanko/en_japan.htm |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Warszawa
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| From "Airplanes production in USSR 1917-1945" part 2, TsAGI Type Year Country bore [mm] stroke [mm] Displacement [l] Compression ratio weight [kg] take-off power output [HP]normal RPMNominal specific parameters Specific power [HP/l]* Sorry, I am tired and not quite I am in contact with three different languages |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lazio
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| thank you both |
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| Specially for non japanese speaking, like you: Zuisei is Comet, Hitachi Ten-pu - wind in the high sky, Kotobuki - auspicious, Hikari - Light, Sakae - glory, Mamori - guard, Homare - honour. |
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