Fw190A6 Sturmjager of Sturmstaffel1 Gruppe Build - Page 2 - Aircraft of World War II

lesofprimus · 02-12-2009, 05:07 PM

Hell yea, lookin forward to this Wojtek... Great pics BTW....

Wurger · 02-12-2009, 06:03 PM

Many thanks gents.

The next step of building is gathering of specification for a model.I used Kagero series for Fw190, some other books, some nice articles about Sturmjagers published in Militaria and Aero magazines, resized drawings of Kagero for A-6 and A-8, my own materials I've collected for ages ( drawings, pics, many diagrams and schemas).

Airframes · 02-12-2009, 06:24 PM

Some nice reference material there Wojtek!

caughtinthemiddle · 02-12-2009, 07:54 PM

Wojtek, why did you choose the Academy one

?
It's the worst kit of the 3 most popular Fw 190 As reenditions in 1:72 scale, it don't even look like that plane...There are great Hasegawa 190As - which need a lot of detailing but has a great, Focke-Wulfish shape

(Part's photo-etch and Tally Ho!'s wheel wells should be enough), Revell's 190 A-8 is also quite nice and cheap...if the problem is the gun cowling for A-6, I can help you with some resin...

Next - the drawings. Kagero as always have some errors, for example uncorrect shape of access panel at the bottom of fuselage, the best drawings are made by Arthur Bentley. but those in Aerodetail 06 - Focke Wulf Fw 190 A-F are useful.
I've added photos from HT Model Special No.916 Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A/F/G/S, drawings from Arthur Bentley's site and Fw 190 A-5/A-6 Flugzeug Handbuch.

109ROAMING · 02-12-2009, 10:29 PM

Excellent stuff Wojtek! Look forward to seeing how you do your corrections

A4K · 02-13-2009, 02:44 AM

Great stuff Wojtek!

Wurger · 02-13-2009, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caughtinthemiddle

Wojtek, why did you choose the Academy one

?
It's the worst kit of the 3 most popular Fw 190 As reenditions in 1:72 scale, it don't even look like that plane...There are great Hasegawa 190As - which need a lot of detailing but has a great, Focke-Wulfish shape

(Part's photo-etch and Tally Ho!'s wheel wells should be enough), Revell's 190 A-8 is also quite nice and cheap...if the problem is the gun cowling for A-6, I can help you with some resin...

Next - the drawings. Kagero as always have some errors, for example uncorrect shape of access panel at the bottom of fuselage, the best drawings are made by Arthur Bentley. but those in Aerodetail 06 - Focke Wulf Fw 190 A-F are useful.
I've added photos from HT Model Special No.916 Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A/F/G/S, drawings from Arthur Bentley's site and Fw 190 A-5/A-6 Flugzeug Handbuch.

Humm... Good question like our former Prime Minister said.

First of all, the main purpose of the thread is to show that we shouldn't be limited in our ideas to these "nice made" kits of very good quality.There are modellers who can't afford these quite expensive kits.What is more there is difference between assembling and building of a model I think.Moreover I like the kind of challange, my workmate says this is always "from no form to a shape" process and I agree with him fully.The kind of model building is a very good training of our abilities and using of different techinques.This can improve our skils.
The second reason I've decided to use the kit is that I found three of them in my stash.I hate wasting plastic.

THX for all.

FalkeEins · 02-13-2009, 06:05 AM

any chance of another view of the Aero 'Sturmjäger' article Wojtek - what pictures did they use ?

Thanks

Wayne Little · 02-13-2009, 06:10 AM

So you like a challenge hey Wojtek!?

Njaco · 02-13-2009, 07:41 AM

Wojtek, I have the Sturmstaffel 1 book already mentioned if you need anything more. But take Erich's words of caution.........

FalkeEins · 02-13-2009, 07:42 AM

Wojtek, you asked for a pic of one of my Academy efforts ...

..here I've replaced the rudder with one from the Airfix kit, but that's left the fin slightly too wide if anything. I decided that I couldn't do anything with the overly-tapered cowl (and poor definition cooler ring). Note also the horrible ailerons, which are far too wide...at least you should be able to sand and rescribe those..which i didn't. If you can make a good job of this kit I'll take my hat off to you (probably eat it as well...)

lesofprimus · 02-13-2009, 07:48 AM

Neil, have u taken a peek at the Hasegawa 1/32 JV44 Dora I just finished up for the Gruppe Build??? I'd like to hear ur honest opinion.....

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/sta...tml#post452162 (Done : JV44 Fw190D-9 "Red1" of Heinz Sachsenberg Gruppe Build....)

Wayne Little · 02-13-2009, 08:04 AM

Nice work Neil!.....Hackl's A-6 is on my 1/32 list!

FalkeEins · 02-13-2009, 10:22 AM

Thanks Wayne - nice of you to take the trouble to compliment my very modest effort! ...& Dan your work is just stunning !!!!

again for Wojtek, here is the 72nd scale Academy kit again (A-6 on the right) with the Revell A-8 alongside for an easy comparison of the two outlines.. that wing on the Academy kit looks like a barn door..about the only thing going for the kit is the multi -part canopy; no surgery to depict it open as required with the Revell kit..

lesofprimus · 02-13-2009, 12:46 PM

Great lookin models Neil, especially for 1/72nd... I can definatly see the difference between the 2 kits, and the wings looks grossly out of proportion....

As far as the Dora goes, would u believe that this is only the 3rd model Ive done in the last 25+ years, and only 2nd one with an airbrush????

02-12-2009, 05:07 PM	#16
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,500	Hell yea, lookin forward to this Wojtek... Great pics BTW.... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

02-12-2009, 06:24 PM	#18
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9,062	Some nice reference material there Wojtek! __________________

02-12-2009, 10:29 PM	#20
109ROAMING Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 4,998	Excellent stuff Wojtek! Look forward to seeing how you do your corrections __________________ "When all else fails read the manual"

02-13-2009, 06:10 AM	#24
Wayne Little Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Sth. Aust. Posts: 12,511	So you like a challenge hey Wojtek!? __________________

02-13-2009, 07:41 AM	#25
Njaco The Pop-Tart Whisperer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey, United States Posts: 10,236	Wojtek, I have the Sturmstaffel 1 book already mentioned if you need anything more. But take Erich's words of caution......... __________________ "If you can read this, thank a teacher. If it's English, thank a soldier!" http://www.njcacoa.org/

02-13-2009, 02:44 AM	#21
A4K Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,224	Great stuff Wojtek!

02-13-2009, 06:05 AM	#23
FalkeEins Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Capel-le-Ferne, Kent, England Posts: 96	any chance of another view of the Aero 'Sturmjäger' article Wojtek - what pictures did they use ? Thanks

02-13-2009, 07:42 AM	#26
FalkeEins Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Capel-le-Ferne, Kent, England Posts: 96	Wojtek, you asked for a pic of one of my Academy efforts ... ..here I've replaced the rudder with one from the Airfix kit, but that's left the fin slightly too wide if anything. I decided that I couldn't do anything with the overly-tapered cowl (and poor definition cooler ring). Note also the horrible ailerons, which are far too wide...at least you should be able to sand and rescribe those..which i didn't. If you can make a good job of this kit I'll take my hat off to you (probably eat it as well...) Last edited by FalkeEins; 02-13-2009 at 07:46 AM.

02-13-2009, 07:48 AM	#27
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,500	Neil, have u taken a peek at the Hasegawa 1/32 JV44 Dora I just finished up for the Gruppe Build??? I'd like to hear ur honest opinion..... http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/sta...tml#post452162 (Done : JV44 Fw190D-9 "Red1" of Heinz Sachsenberg Gruppe Build....) __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

02-13-2009, 08:04 AM	#28
Wayne Little Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Sth. Aust. Posts: 12,511	Nice work Neil!.....Hackl's A-6 is on my 1/32 list! __________________

02-13-2009, 10:22 AM	#29
FalkeEins Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Capel-le-Ferne, Kent, England Posts: 96	Thanks Wayne - nice of you to take the trouble to compliment my very modest effort! ...& Dan your work is just stunning !!!! again for Wojtek, here is the 72nd scale Academy kit again (A-6 on the right) with the Revell A-8 alongside for an easy comparison of the two outlines.. that wing on the Academy kit looks like a barn door..about the only thing going for the kit is the multi -part canopy; no surgery to depict it open as required with the Revell kit.. Last edited by FalkeEins; 02-13-2009 at 10:42 AM.

02-13-2009, 12:46 PM	#30
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 17,500	Great lookin models Neil, especially for 1/72nd... I can definatly see the difference between the 2 kits, and the wings looks grossly out of proportion.... As far as the Dora goes, would u believe that this is only the 3rd model Ive done in the last 25+ years, and only 2nd one with an airbrush???? __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk

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