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proton45 · 07-28-2009, 07:14 AM

I'm just going to throw this out their....Did they use "tar paper" on roofs in Austria? It would not have been uncommon to find roofs covered in this material elsewhere...

A4K · 07-28-2009, 08:36 AM

Do you mean 'Eternit' ? If so, that was invented in Austria actually - I met the man who invented it. (A friend of mine used to work as a cleaner in his house in Vienna.)

Airframes · 07-28-2009, 02:19 PM

I think you might be right about the 'wrinkly tin' Evan. I've just checked the larger pic Wojtek posted. the roof section on the far right, immediate front, where it is just overhanging the eaves, does appear to have a corrugated form. I hadn't noticed this before, as I was looking at the pattern further down the centre of the roof, which looked like those wooden 'tiles' I'm sure you're familar with in central Europe. That could just be the lighting, or maybe the roof has a mixture of both, with corrugated iron used in repairs? Anyway, either surface would su8ffice for Lucas's diorama I would think.
If it is corrugated iron, most I've seen in the region have been painted a dull orange colour, virtually a rust red/orange - that is if they hadn't actually rusted to that colour!

Lucke.stz · 07-28-2009, 02:55 PM

Great informations Terry and Evan, thanks

To make the corrugated metal on this tiny scale, is only to Jedis

I don´t know how it could be made. I´m thinking in use some little parts of 1/64 plywood (0,3mm) to make the "tiles" of the roof.

Or made an mix of both if I can find some stuff that can be used like the metal corrugated.

I find a lot of pics that I imagine could help-me, on roof colors.

Comments are welcome

Thanks to all,

cheers,

proton45 · 07-28-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucke.stz

Great informations Terry and Evan, thanks

To make the corrugated metal on this tiny scale, is only to Jedis

I don´t know how it could be made. I´m thinking in use some little parts of 1/64 plywood (0,3mm) to make the "tiles" of the roof.

Or made an mix of both if I can find some stuff that can be used like the metal corrugated.

I find a lot of pics that I imagine could help-me, on roof colors.

Comments are welcome

Thanks to all,

cheers,

I have seen a "card stock" type of thing that is sold to model railroad enthusiasts...I believe they have a corrugated metal type of thing available, I'm not sure of the scale. (If you go in for that type of thing

)

Lucke.stz · 07-28-2009, 05:40 PM

Yes Proton, I think in something like this, of railroad models, the N scale is about 1/150 so it fit good with 1/144. Let´s see what that I can find...

Good news, today the mail delivers my new Eduard Stuka ! Wow, great kit, comes with masks and PE !!

A4K · 07-29-2009, 12:51 AM

Great score Lucas! Good info too Proton, that sounds perfect for what he needs here!

Lucke.stz · 07-30-2009, 09:35 AM

Well guys,

With good informations on hands, is time to work

I´m going to star to the funny part, the barn, so today I draw a little plans on Corel Draw and starts to build.

I make some strips from 1/32 scrap balsa, and with ciano, started the construction.

By de pics I dd some scale down to size, it is not exactly, but is but closer to the real

Some pics:

Some dry fit to show the size and scale:

Thanks to see

cheers,

Wurger · 07-30-2009, 10:35 AM

Looking impressive Lucas.Keep working.

In meantime I have resized the last pic with the barn roof.

Lucke.stz · 07-30-2009, 11:30 AM

Tks Wurger !

Looking this pic, my barn size is ok

, Something three times the length from the spinner to the wing trailing edge, good to me

This pic shows the roof good, seens like metal roof, good ...

cheers,

Lucky13 · 07-30-2009, 01:39 PM

Great stuff!

Airframes · 07-30-2009, 02:15 PM

Marvellous work Lucas! I hadn't realised you were going to build the barn as it was actually constructed, with the framework etc! I thought it would have been from card sheet or balsa sheet, withthe detail added on the outside - it should look great the way you are doing it!!

Lucke.stz · 07-30-2009, 02:20 PM

Thanks Lucky13 !

Thanks Terry ! Yeah, I´m going to build it like the real one, It made from card or sheet balsa I think that looks like a toy not a model

Thanks to see

A4K · 07-30-2009, 04:31 PM

Great work Lucas! This should be another great build !

Wurger · 07-31-2009, 03:52 AM

07-28-2009, 02:19 PM	#33
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 11,552	I think you might be right about the 'wrinkly tin' Evan. I've just checked the larger pic Wojtek posted. the roof section on the far right, immediate front, where it is just overhanging the eaves, does appear to have a corrugated form. I hadn't noticed this before, as I was looking at the pattern further down the centre of the roof, which looked like those wooden 'tiles' I'm sure you're familar with in central Europe. That could just be the lighting, or maybe the roof has a mixture of both, with corrugated iron used in repairs? Anyway, either surface would su8ffice for Lucas's diorama I would think. If it is corrugated iron, most I've seen in the region have been painted a dull orange colour, virtually a rust red/orange - that is if they hadn't actually rusted to that colour! __________________

07-30-2009, 01:39 PM	#41
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 17,331	Great stuff! __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

07-30-2009, 02:15 PM	#42
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 11,552	Marvellous work Lucas! I hadn't realised you were going to build the barn as it was actually constructed, with the framework etc! I thought it would have been from card sheet or balsa sheet, withthe detail added on the outside - it should look great the way you are doing it!! __________________

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07-28-2009, 07:14 AM	#31
proton45 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 483	I'm just going to throw this out their....Did they use "tar paper" on roofs in Austria? It would not have been uncommon to find roofs covered in this material elsewhere...

07-28-2009, 08:36 AM	#32
A4K Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,851	Do you mean 'Eternit' ? If so, that was invented in Austria actually - I met the man who invented it. (A friend of mine used to work as a cleaner in his house in Vienna.)

07-28-2009, 02:55 PM	#34
Lucke.stz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sertaozinho-SP-Brazil Posts: 315	Great informations Terry and Evan, thanks To make the corrugated metal on this tiny scale, is only to Jedis I don´t know how it could be made. I´m thinking in use some little parts of 1/64 plywood (0,3mm) to make the "tiles" of the roof. Or made an mix of both if I can find some stuff that can be used like the metal corrugated. I find a lot of pics that I imagine could help-me, on roof colors. Comments are welcome Thanks to all, cheers,

07-28-2009, 05:40 PM	#36
Lucke.stz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sertaozinho-SP-Brazil Posts: 315	Yes Proton, I think in something like this, of railroad models, the N scale is about 1/150 so it fit good with 1/144. Let´s see what that I can find... Good news, today the mail delivers my new Eduard Stuka ! Wow, great kit, comes with masks and PE !!

07-29-2009, 12:51 AM	#37
A4K Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,851	Great score Lucas! Good info too Proton, that sounds perfect for what he needs here!

07-30-2009, 09:35 AM	#38
Lucke.stz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sertaozinho-SP-Brazil Posts: 315	Well guys, With good informations on hands, is time to work I´m going to star to the funny part, the barn, so today I draw a little plans on Corel Draw and starts to build. I make some strips from 1/32 scrap balsa, and with ciano, started the construction. By de pics I dd some scale down to size, it is not exactly, but is but closer to the real Some pics: Some dry fit to show the size and scale: Thanks to see cheers,

07-30-2009, 11:30 AM	#40
Lucke.stz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sertaozinho-SP-Brazil Posts: 315	Tks Wurger ! Looking this pic, my barn size is ok , Something three times the length from the spinner to the wing trailing edge, good to me This pic shows the roof good, seens like metal roof, good ... cheers,

07-30-2009, 02:20 PM	#43
Lucke.stz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Sertaozinho-SP-Brazil Posts: 315	Thanks Lucky13 ! Thanks Terry ! Yeah, I´m going to build it like the real one, It made from card or sheet balsa I think that looks like a toy not a model Thanks to see

07-30-2009, 04:31 PM	#44
A4K Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,851	Great work Lucas! This should be another great build !