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Old 09-05-2009, 07:56 AM   #1
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'88's, or here's your thread Guttorm....

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now THAT is cool..so i finally will see some more 88`s beeing buildt here..been missing that like crazy..so come on guys..start threads and ask me for details if needed

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Obstlt Werner Baumbach, 5/KG-30 (5/40), Kdr I/KG-30 (7/41), Kdr III/KG-30 (12/42), Kdr KG-200 (1/45) Ju 88A in KG-30, Fw 200 & Ju 188 in KG-200.

POW until 1948. Bomber attacks on France. Holland and Belgium. Transferred to Norway, attacking Allied convoys on their way to Sevastopol in June, 1942. End of 1942, transferred to the Mediterranean. He was the most highly decorated and most successful German bomber pilot of the war, with over 300,000 tons of shipping sunk. He was the 16th recipient of the RK-EL-S. Operated the "Mistel" aircraft in KG-200. He left Germany in 1948 and worked in Argentina. KIFA over the La Plata Mouth near Buenos Aires during a test flight with a Lancaster bomber on 20 October 1953.


Fw Max Brandenburg, /KG-101 (6/44) Ju 88A.

Over 400 combat mission, multiple sea vessel victories.


Lt Walter Schultze Eckard, Stab II/KG-30 Ju 88A-4 Werk # 140724 "4D + BC" (lost MIA).

MIA 13 April, 1942; failed to return from a mission, possibly crashing at Map Quadrant 27 East/5464, no further detail. Remaining crew (all MIA): OFW Berthold Könitzer, Observer; Uffz Karl Dunke, R/O and Uffz Hans Dittemann, Gunner.


Fw Kurt Fenske, I/KG-30 (Norway) Ju 88A-4 Werk # 1741 "4D + CH" (lost MIA).


MIA 4 April, 1943; shot down by enemy fighter at Rosta. Remaining crew (all MIA): Uffz Herbert Heggers, Observer; Ogefr Erhard Stanuk, R/O and Uffz Werner Schmidt, Gunner.


Uffz Robert Habermann, I/KG-30 Ju 88A-5 Werk # 4155 "4D + KL" (lost MIA).

MIA 6 October, 1941; failed to return from a mission near Warlamowo, no further detail. Remaining crew (all MIA): Gefr Hans Kratz, Observer; Gefr Karl Wetzelberger, R/O and Ogefr Johann Zimmerhackl, Gunner.





I already have my Norway '88.... Werner Baumbach's Ju 88 A-4, A6+HH with 1./KG 30 "Adlergeschwader" in Norway in 1941.

Just need to find that He 111.....

Over to you Gutt....
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Old 09-06-2009, 10:37 AM   #2
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Lt Reinhold Harnack, III/KG-26 Ju 88A-4 Werk # 140083 "1T + LT" (lost MIA).

MIA 14 September, 1942; shot down at Svalbard. Remaining crew (all MIA): Gefr Alfred Ullrich, Observer; Gefr Hermann Keil, R/O and Ogefr Karl Schmitt, Gunner.


Ofw Fritz Hart, 1(F)/124 Ju 88 Werk # 0815 "G2 + OH" (lost MIA).

MIA 24 April, 1941; failed to return from a mission at Firth of Forth, cause unknown. Remaining crew (all MIA): Oblt Heinz Petran, Observer; Fw Georg Krüger, R/O and Gefr Josef Klein, Mech.


Oberst Hans-Joachim Helbig, III/KG-152 (4/37), II/LG-1 ('3, Stfkpt 4/LG-1 (5/40), Kdr I/LG-1 (8/40 Orleans), Kdr LG-1 (8/43) Ju 88A-1, Ju 88A-4 & 5, Ju 88A-11 "L1 + AM".

Entered the Luftwaffe in 1936. 750+ missions. Served in Poland, Norway, Mediterranean and Normandy. He was among the most successful bomber pilots, particularly the anti-shipping role. He sank a total of some 180,000 tons of Allied ships. He survived the war, a U.S. POW. His rear gunner was Ofw Franz "Franzel" Schlund, born 10 August, 1913 in Leinen, near Heidelberg (also RK on 8/30/41, 1st R/O to receive the RK), served in the paratroopers in the late war, and survived. His cheif mechanic, Rudi Behm. He was a Channel "splash" victim during the Battle of Britain.

Ofw Hans Hermann, 2/KG-30 Ju 88A-5 Werk # 3435 "4D + 1K" (lost MIA).

MIA 13 March, 1942 during a mission off the coast of Murmansk, cause unknown. Remaining crew (all MIA): Ofw Walter Mans, Observer; Uffz Werner Pfülle, R/O and Fw Heinrich Schlüter, Gunner.


Lt Johannes Hoss, 1(F)/22 Ju 88D-1 Werk # 1682 "4N + EH" (lost KIA).

KIA 4 October, 1943 during aerial combat, over the sea, southwest of Rost, 125 nautical miles west of Bodö, with two Navy F-4F's off the carrier Ranger. The Navy pilots were Lt Mayhew and Lt Laird (Laird was credited with an He 115 earlier this same day). After the second pass, the Ju 88 exploded, killing the crew. Remaining crew(KIA): Fw Otto Glasig, Observer; Ogefr Friedrich Krieger, R/O and Uffz Alfons Fischer, Gunner.


Fw Walter Huneke, 1(F)/120 Ju 88D-2 Werk # 0814 "A6 + MH" (lost MIA).

MIA 4 August, 1941 during an operational flight between Kirkenes and Motowski, no further detail. Remaining crew (all MIA): Lt Wilhelm Vollers, Observer; Uffz Erich Hecker, R/O and Ofw Hermann Wasmund, Gunner.


Fw Martin Irrgang, 9/KG-30 Ju 88A-4 Werk # 140138 "4D + IT" (lost MIA).

MIA 25 May, 1942; shot down over the Baerntsea. Remaining crew (all MIA): Ogefr Hans Backe, Observer; Ogefr Hans Müller, R/O and Gefr Heinrich Jungeland, Gunner.


Fw Helmut Rieck, 1(F)/120 Ju 88D-1 Werk # 1577 "A6 + NH" (lost MIA).

MIA 8 January, 1942; failed to return from a mission near FFäröyne. Remaining crew (all MIA): Lt Heinrich Brems, Observer; Uffz Theodor Ziegler, R/O and Uffz Erwing Aigner, Gunner.


Fw Helmuth Riedl, 1(F)/124 Ju 88D-5 Werk # 130045 "G2 + BH" (lost MIA).

MIA 21 July, 1942; failed to return from a mission at Archangelsk, cause unknown. Remaining crew (all MIA): Lt Ernst Köhne, Observer; Fw Dieter Luther, R/O and Ogefr Heinz Oczki, Gunner.
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Old 09-06-2009, 02:12 PM   #3
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cool and that will be a great Ju 88.. i have long wanted to do a baumbach 88 myself

have you read his book

"life and death of the Luftwaffe "

great book
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Old 09-06-2009, 02:15 PM   #4
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I haven't.... Send it over so that I can read it!
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Old 09-06-2009, 03:30 PM   #5
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you can buy it here,, i have the first edition so not sending that anywhere..

but its harder and harder to find

Amazon.com: The Life and Death of the Luftwaffe (9780939482375): Werner Baumbach: Books
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Old 09-06-2009, 04:04 PM   #6
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Cool! Cheers mate!
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Uffz Reinhard Schellern, 6/KG-30 Ju 88A-5 Werk # 8173 "4D + IP" (lost MIA).

MIA (and presumed KIA) 24 June, 1941 on a Murmansk mission, by an RS-82 rocket-firing I-16 of the 72nd Composite Aviation Regt., flown by Soviet Ace Lt Boris Safonov. Schellern tried to evade in a dive over the sea, but was finished off by machine gun fire over Zalentsa Bay. Remaining crew (all MIA): Fw Heinz Irens, Observer, Gefr Georg Crecki, R/O and Gefr Oskar Viertel, Gunner.


Lt Arthur Schubert, 7/KG-30 Ju 88A-4 Werk # 1456 "4D + CR" (lost MIA).

MIA 25 May, 1942; failed to return from a mission over the Barentsea, cause unknown. Remaining crew (all MIA): Ogefr Rudolf Geppert, Observer; Ogefr Karl Weber, R/O and Uffz Franz Allweiler, Gunner.


Ofw Hans Schubert, 1(F)/120 Ju 88D-5 Werk # 430206 "A6 + EH" (lost MIA).

MIA 1 March, 1943 during an operation at Map Quadrant 05 East/2719. Remaining crew (all MIA): Ofw Heinfried Eskuche, Observer; Fw Heinrich Schumacher, R/O and Fw Friedrich Neumann, Gunner.


Fw Gerhard Schwager, 1(F)/120 Ju 88D-2 Werk # 0860 "A6 + BH" (lost MIA).

MIA 24 July, 1941; failed to return from a mission by Firth of Forth. Remaining crew: Uffz Günther Ungethüm, Observer (KIA); Uffz Karl Hagemeier, R/O (MIA) and Uffz Willi Römer, Gunner (MIA).


There's still a few more, but....
Anyway, is there much going on at the SIG Norway Gutt, or is it a lull in the fighting? Think that the last update was in November, is that right?
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Old 09-10-2009, 06:43 AM   #8
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No love for the Ju 88 G-6?
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Have one! These are IF I remember correctly, Norway based '88's....

Got the '88 delivery today Gutt! Thank you SO very much mate!

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A Ju 88 G - 6 at Grove, Denmark 1945.

As far as I know, no G - 6's in Norway, no point as Bomber Command would never route raids into Germany that far North.

The G - 6 was used in the last Luftwaffe long range intruder mission of WWII, "Unternehmen Gisela."
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When I get to purchase my 1/32 '88, I think that I'll be doing this machine...

Lt Arthur Schubert, 7/KG-30 Ju 88A-4 Werk # 1456 "4D + CR" (lost MIA).

MIA 25 May, 1942; failed to return from a mission over the Barentsea, cause unknown. Remaining crew (all MIA): Ogefr Rudolf Geppert, Observer; Ogefr Karl Weber, R/O and Uffz Franz Allweiler, Gunner.

7./KG30 based at Trondheim-Vaernes...Bardufoss, is that correct Guttorm?

Also, can you get detailing sets to turn this Revell A-1 into an A-4?




Not the most pleasant place to go MIA in....
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that is correct my friend and L\ arsenal will soon release its coversion kit to the A4 ( the kit is made by the same man who made the master drawings on the 88 model for Revell )

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Old 11-07-2009, 01:06 PM   #13
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Question

were ther any Ju88 A4s shot down over scotland at all
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Ofw Paul Weber, 1(F)/120 Ju 88A-4 Werk # 140554 "A6 + SH" (lost MIA).

MIA 14 December, 1943; failed to return from a mission at Map Quadrant 05 East/2800, cause unknown. Remaining crew: Fw Hans Erich Siminger, Observer (MIA); Fw Wolfgang Jährig, R/O (KIA) and Ofw Jakob Rohr, Mech (MIA).

Lt Lothar Werner, III/KG-30 Ju 88A-4 Werk # 142128 "4D + JR" (lost MIA).

MIA 31 October, 1942; failed to return from a mission to Murmans, cause unknown. Remaining crew (all MIA): Gefr Heinrich Leiser, Observer; Ogefr Josef Mathe, R/O and Ogefr Lorenz Klez, Gunner.

How about these two Jamie?

Oblt Arno Wolf, II/KG-30 Ju 88A-5 Werk # 2400 "4D + BC" (lost MIA).

MIA 7 June, 1941 after being shot down by AA fire at Loch-Ewe Scotland. Remaining crew: Fw Theo Holstin, Observer (MIA); Fw Günther Erler, R/O (MIA) and Uffz Heinz Weber, Gunner (KIA).

Oblt Fritz Förster, 4/KG-6 (Deelen Holland) Ju 88A-14 Werk # 144537 "3E + HM" (lost KIA).

KIA 25 March, 1943 after being caught by AA fire and crashing into a hill at Balerno, Scotland, seven miles south of Edinburgh, killing the entire crew. Remaining crew (KIA): Ogefr Heinz Kristall, Observer; Uffz Horst Bluhm, R/O and Gefr Willi Euler, Gunner.
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Old 11-08-2009, 04:36 AM   #15
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wifes family is from the Edinburgh area so that last 1 is promising depending on how much i would have to alter the model i have .he question now is what are the differences between an A4 and an A14
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