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06-18-2008, 10:13 PM
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Country:  | Mac, here is a link to help with a pic from that site. The Luftwaffe in Scale: Identification Codes of Luftwaffe Units 1939 - 1945
also understand that color of the letter also plays an important part like that red "Y".
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06-18-2008, 10:23 PM
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#17 | | Siggy Master
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Originally Posted by mlmcdonald  Aha. So in the one with the unit designation of "A5," the letter of the aircraft would be the first one to the right of the balkenkreuz, i.e. "A" and the squadron designation would be "K". Right? So would that be the squadron leader, with the next aircraft bearing the letters A5 (cross) BK, and so on? |
Yes you are right,the "A" letter is the individual one and the "K" is a Staffel coded number.But as far as the squadron leader is concerned,every Gruppe had its own Stuff Staffel called GruppenStab Staffel where all planes wore green individal letters.So the Gruppe leader's aircraft could wear green A letter and then the last letter was as shown in the uploaded below picture.The last letter depended on a Gruppe.The Staffel leader could fly with "A" of the Staffel colour on fuselage but I'm not sure.I haven't found any infos on the matter so far.
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06-19-2008, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mlmcdonald Wayne: I just opened mine this morning and it does appear to be quite good. The crew figures are surprisingly good--even with heads and arms that move.  I'm hoping to avoid having to use any aftermarket stuff on it at all, other than possibly some decals. One other thing, though, is that although I'm going to hang them from the ceiling, the rear machine gun won't do at all. Any thoughts on what to replace it with?
Michael | Well if the gun is not an option you don't really have much else in the way of choice mate, i don't recall there being anything else used there I'm afraid.?
Keep up the good stuff Wurger, that chart is a good simple one for reference, those codes can be confusing to work out.
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06-19-2008, 08:48 AM
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06-19-2008, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Wayne Little Well if the gun is not an option you don't really have much else in the way of choice mate, i don't recall there being anything else used there I'm afraid.? | I'm afraid I wasn't very clear in what I meant. I wasn't actually asking about whether to replace the gun with something other than a gun, but rather about whether there might be a better aftermarket gun available than the gun in the kit. Sorry for the confusion.
Njaco and Wurger: Thanks for the info. It's rather complex, isn't it, though it does seem to be more certain than the colors of Panzer turret numbers, which is subject to much disagreement since it depends entirely on how one interprets the b&w photos of the time.
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06-19-2008, 10:40 AM
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Does anyone know of some decent cockpit photos of the Ju-87B online somewhere? The cockpit of the 21st Century Toys kit is quite rudimenary, but as I've mentioned, I intend to suspend my Stukas from the ceiling so I have no desire to do a full, accurate cockpit; that said, however, I can't bring myself to just leave it empty, so as a bare minimum I have to at least fill some of the void with "gizmology."
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06-19-2008, 01:47 PM
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#22 | | Siggy Master
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Here you are the B&W pic of early B-1 front cockpit and the instrument panel. 
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06-19-2008, 02:02 PM
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Country: | Hi Wurger: Many thanks for the photos. I'm using a few photos I've found of resin aftermarket cockpits to improve the sidewalls somewhat. Now I'm on a quest for an acceptable MG-15 to mount in the rear cockpit. You've been a tremendous help and I do appreciate it.
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06-19-2008, 02:29 PM
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#24 | | Siggy Master
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Here you are a couple of additional drawings for MG 15 machine gun.
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06-19-2008, 02:43 PM
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Country: | Thanks again Wurger. I'm sure you'll be hearing from me soon with more questions. 
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06-19-2008, 03:10 PM
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#26 | | Siggy Master
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06-19-2008, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mlmcdonald I'm afraid I wasn't very clear in what I meant. I wasn't actually asking about whether to replace the gun with something other than a gun, but rather about whether there might be a better aftermarket gun available than the gun in the kit. Sorry for the confusion.
Michael | Ah, no worries, my mistake, I thought your question was a bit odd?
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06-19-2008, 07:15 PM
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Country: | Okay I have to ask, what is the front sight gizmo? Looks like it accounts for aircraft yaw or some silliness, but silliness certainly was not a German design parameter. Two front post sights? Wings for range estimation (and thus lead)? And leading post has a wider section mid-way down. For close in snap shots? Any help here guys?
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06-20-2008, 02:08 PM
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Country: | Sorry Matt I don't catch your idea.Could you make it clear using a bit "easier" words. 
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06-20-2008, 10:22 PM
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Country: | Since I was wondering the same thing myself, I'll join in. Matt was just asking what the unusual front sight with two posts is for.
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