Bf 110G-2 'Pulk-Zerstörer'.... - Page 5 - Aircraft of World War II

Lucky13 · 09-30-2009, 10:43 AM

Great stuff Bud! Here's another pic from the same book, just noticed it!

Micdrow · 09-30-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky13

Great stuff Bud! Here's another pic from the same book, just noticed it!

Interesting as that one at least from what I can tell from the picture looks different from the one's I posted.

Micdrow · 09-30-2009, 03:35 PM

Jan, I just stumbled on to this crate that you might find interesting.

Erich · 09-30-2009, 04:14 PM

used in late 1943 on a limited basis, too much wieght with the radar antlers

Micdrow · 09-30-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Erich

used in late 1943 on a limited basis, too much wieght with the radar antlers

Im just curious Erich, any idea on how much weight it added to the aircraft.

Erich · 09-30-2009, 04:30 PM

well you have the weight of the carrier and it's fittings that are hinged for one. two more 2cm cannon plus the ammo belts

yeah that about sums it up...............too much

P ~ am not sure but it sure slowed the a/c down; it was bad enought with twin antler sets being carried and a thrid crew emember plus SM installation and it's ammo. what a pig to be easily shot down during the minimal day ops the 110G units flew in fall of 43 into early spring of 44.

............ auch du a fat sow !

beaupower32 · 10-02-2009, 10:18 AM

One more for ya!

Erich · 10-02-2009, 10:26 AM

same crate as the first one at the top of the page Beau. I have several pics of this bird as well from Fall of 1943

Lucky13 · 10-02-2009, 01:32 PM

Extra tanks and no rocket pods.....hmmmm.

Erich · 10-02-2009, 01:35 PM

extra fuel tanks were common on most long range ops that all 3 ZG's performed. rocket launchers were not always fitted either, pure experimentation in 1943 till it was settled on the standard fit, but as we have discussed and the same goes for the Me 410A/B crews they were sitting ducks to Allied escorts

like mentioned I have several actually about a dozen pics of early II./ZG 1 birds with long barrels in the nose, and NO rocket mortar fittings. probably so the ZG 1 birds could get in close with the forward 6 2cm weapons..........sounds a bit suicidal.

E ~

Lucky13 · 10-02-2009, 08:20 PM

How much do we know about the Münster raid? Think that the '110 will be made as one of the opposing machines during that air battle....

Erich · 10-02-2009, 08:33 PM

quite a bit Jan, we know LW and US losses and even kills.

you are looking at ZG 26 Stab or III./ZG 26 > 7, 8 or 9th staffels

Lucky13 · 10-02-2009, 09:16 PM

Excellent!

That's quite a few I have to say Erich! Any suggestions?

Once again, thank you very much!

Lucky13 · 10-03-2009, 03:44 PM

Just wondering what the target(s) were 11th January '44, it's mentioned that 58 B-17's and 2 B-24's were shot down on that date....

Erich · 10-03-2009, 05:55 PM

my PC was having a brain fart today..........

alrightie a Jan. 11, 44 was a rocket day literally.

LW lost 39 fighters out of 207 committed.

ZG 26 with I. and II. gruppe shot down 9 B-17's but lost lost 8 A/C
ZG 76 with I. and III. gruppe shot down 10 B-17's but lost 4 A/C

the US 3rd B.D. attacking Brunswick really got clobbered by twin engines w. Rockets/Cannon

09-30-2009, 10:43 AM	#61
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 17,331	Great stuff Bud! Here's another pic from the same book, just noticed it! __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

09-30-2009, 04:14 PM	#64
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 11,110	used in late 1943 on a limited basis, too much wieght with the radar antlers __________________ Rip it up !

09-30-2009, 04:30 PM	#66
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 11,110	well you have the weight of the carrier and it's fittings that are hinged for one. two more 2cm cannon plus the ammo belts yeah that about sums it up...............too much P ~ am not sure but it sure slowed the a/c down; it was bad enought with twin antler sets being carried and a thrid crew emember plus SM installation and it's ammo. what a pig to be easily shot down during the minimal day ops the 110G units flew in fall of 43 into early spring of 44. ............ auch du a fat sow ! __________________ Rip it up !

10-02-2009, 10:18 AM	#67
beaupower32 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Charleston, South Carolina Posts: 1,295	One more for ya! __________________ The Gates of Hell are open Day and Night. A Guilty Conscience is the Hell of a Living Soul. Abandon All Hope, You who Enter here. Dante's Inferno

10-02-2009, 10:26 AM	#68
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 11,110	same crate as the first one at the top of the page Beau. I have several pics of this bird as well from Fall of 1943 __________________ Rip it up !

10-02-2009, 01:32 PM	#69
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 17,331	Extra tanks and no rocket pods.....hmmmm. __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

10-02-2009, 01:35 PM	#70
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 11,110	extra fuel tanks were common on most long range ops that all 3 ZG's performed. rocket launchers were not always fitted either, pure experimentation in 1943 till it was settled on the standard fit, but as we have discussed and the same goes for the Me 410A/B crews they were sitting ducks to Allied escorts like mentioned I have several actually about a dozen pics of early II./ZG 1 birds with long barrels in the nose, and NO rocket mortar fittings. probably so the ZG 1 birds could get in close with the forward 6 2cm weapons..........sounds a bit suicidal. E ~ __________________ Rip it up !

10-02-2009, 08:20 PM	#71
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 17,331	How much do we know about the Münster raid? Think that the '110 will be made as one of the opposing machines during that air battle.... __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

10-02-2009, 08:33 PM	#72
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 11,110	quite a bit Jan, we know LW and US losses and even kills. you are looking at ZG 26 Stab or III./ZG 26 > 7, 8 or 9th staffels __________________ Rip it up !

10-02-2009, 09:16 PM	#73
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 17,331	Excellent! That's quite a few I have to say Erich! Any suggestions? Once again, thank you very much! __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

10-03-2009, 03:44 PM	#74
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 17,331	Just wondering what the target(s) were 11th January '44, it's mentioned that 58 B-17's and 2 B-24's were shot down on that date.... __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

10-03-2009, 05:55 PM	#75
Erich the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere Posts: 11,110	my PC was having a brain fart today.......... alrightie a Jan. 11, 44 was a rocket day literally. LW lost 39 fighters out of 207 committed. ZG 26 with I. and II. gruppe shot down 9 B-17's but lost lost 8 A/C ZG 76 with I. and III. gruppe shot down 10 B-17's but lost 4 A/C the US 3rd B.D. attacking Brunswick really got clobbered by twin engines w. Rockets/Cannon __________________ Rip it up !

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