Hasegawa 1/32 Bf109 G-6, Oblt. Schilling - Aircraft of World War II

adamant365 · 02-16-2009, 10:01 PM

Hello All,

I have started working on Hasegawa's very nice 1/32 Bf109 G-6. I purchased the Eagle Cals (#3

and have decided on Oblt. Wilhelm Schilling's "Yellow 1" of 9/JG54. I have one question about this particular aircraft. Does anyone know if this airframe (W. Nr. 440141...if that helps) had the "pressurization bulge" on the starboard side engine cowling? I haven't found any helpful photos, since it seems that 90% of the G-6 pictures I've found have been looking at the supercharger intake side. The G-6's "good side" must have been deemed to be the port side...or maybe it's because I'm trying to find a port side shot...

Anyway, thanks in advance for any help.

Adam

adamant365 · 02-16-2009, 10:07 PM

Nevermind....I saw a drawing from the Kagero Bf-109 book that showed both sides. It was in another thread about the build of Schilling's G-6. I swear that wasn't there before....

Now, I'm not familiar with the Kagero books. Can I be reasonably certain that what is depicted there is accurate?? Thanks.

Adam

Wurger · 02-17-2009, 08:04 AM

Do you mean the bulges? If yes, these were on both sides of the fuselage.

Here you are a link to the thread about the plane here in the forum.

http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/sta...ild-16460.html

Wayne Little · 02-17-2009, 02:47 PM

Seems Schilling's aircraft is rather popular at the moment!

Wurger · 02-17-2009, 03:12 PM

You are right.

lesofprimus · 02-17-2009, 03:22 PM

I guess Adams' not familiar with our Gruppe Build goin on right now....

Airframes · 02-17-2009, 04:21 PM

If you've just started the kit Adam, why not enter the Group Build? You're more than welcome, and all the help you need is at hand.

adamant365 · 02-17-2009, 06:07 PM

Wow, thanks for all the replies.

@Wurger:

I was actually referring to the extra small bulge that extends low and forward from the gun housing cover "bulge" on the starboard side only. From what I've read, this was an extension for the pressurization system on the G-5. Since that starboard gun housing cover was made in a much higher quantity than the number of G-5's produced, it was applied to the G-6's, even though they weren't (for the most part) pressurized. Anyway, looking at the thread and the pictures Wayne Little posted from the Kagero book, that accessory bulge is NOT present.

Thanks for all the help. I will be progressing very slowly on this build as it has been years (>10) since I built anything and I currently have no real workspace until my wife (key words) and I buy a house later this coming summer. I may post some progress shots on that thread anyway.

Thanks again!

Adam

adamant365 · 02-17-2009, 06:10 PM

I've attached a picture of what I was talking about...

Was Schilling's G-6 like "A" or "B".

That's all.

Adam

Wurger · 02-17-2009, 06:53 PM

Ok Adam.Now I can see this.I think the plane could have been the standard G-6 one.Its werk nummer says it was plane of quite late series so it is possible that there wasn't the bulge.

lesofprimus · 02-17-2009, 07:09 PM

Does the extra bulge on the bulge represent the AS version of a specific version???

My G-14 has the similar option....

Wurger · 02-17-2009, 07:23 PM

Rather no Dan.Aircraft with AS engine had different cowling like in the drawing.G-14 with the MG bulges like G-5 and G-6 had the small one on the starboard indeed.

adamant365 · 02-17-2009, 07:50 PM

@lesofprimus:

From what I know (< a little), and the pictures I've seen, the AS version of the Gustav had no gun housing bulges on either side. Instead they had a streamlined forward fuselage with more gradual lines and with the gun troughs moved slightly forward. I'm also under the impression that the "extra" bulge on the stb. side made a varied appearance. By that I mean that when the starboard gun housing was needed to complete a 109, they used what was available. Since in many cases, what was available was the G-5 housing and since it fit on the G-6 with no problem, it was used. Since the G-5 was pressurized, it had the additional smaller bulge to accomodate the accessory drives for the pressurization system.

As for the G-14 the AS thing holds true there. As for which G-14's had the "extra bulge," that would take a bit more research.

Adam

lesofprimus · 02-18-2009, 05:36 AM

Thanks guys, gonna use the bulge with the bulge on the stbd side....

02-16-2009, 10:01 PM	#1
adamant365 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 6	Hasegawa 1/32 Bf109 G-6, Oblt. Schilling Hello All, I have started working on Hasegawa's very nice 1/32 Bf109 G-6. I purchased the Eagle Cals (#3 and have decided on Oblt. Wilhelm Schilling's "Yellow 1" of 9/JG54. I have one question about this particular aircraft. Does anyone know if this airframe (W. Nr. 440141...if that helps) had the "pressurization bulge" on the starboard side engine cowling? I haven't found any helpful photos, since it seems that 90% of the G-6 pictures I've found have been looking at the supercharger intake side. The G-6's "good side" must have been deemed to be the port side...or maybe it's because I'm trying to find a port side shot... Anyway, thanks in advance for any help. Adam

02-17-2009, 02:47 PM	#4
Wayne Little Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Adelaide Sth. Aust. Posts: 14,850	Seems Schilling's aircraft is rather popular at the moment! __________________

02-17-2009, 03:12 PM	#5
Wurger Siggy Master Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 16,017	You are right. __________________

02-17-2009, 03:22 PM	#6
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 18,463	I guess Adams' not familiar with our Gruppe Build goin on right now.... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk My 1/32nd Rendition of His Corsair: http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/2-p...3-a-20416.html

02-17-2009, 04:21 PM	#7
Airframes Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 11,556	If you've just started the kit Adam, why not enter the Group Build? You're more than welcome, and all the help you need is at hand. __________________

02-16-2009, 10:07 PM	#2
adamant365 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 6	Nevermind....I saw a drawing from the Kagero Bf-109 book that showed both sides. It was in another thread about the build of Schilling's G-6. I swear that wasn't there before.... Now, I'm not familiar with the Kagero books. Can I be reasonably certain that what is depicted there is accurate?? Thanks. Adam

02-17-2009, 06:07 PM	#8
adamant365 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 6	Wow, thanks for all the replies. @Wurger: I was actually referring to the extra small bulge that extends low and forward from the gun housing cover "bulge" on the starboard side only. From what I've read, this was an extension for the pressurization system on the G-5. Since that starboard gun housing cover was made in a much higher quantity than the number of G-5's produced, it was applied to the G-6's, even though they weren't (for the most part) pressurized. Anyway, looking at the thread and the pictures Wayne Little posted from the Kagero book, that accessory bulge is NOT present. Thanks for all the help. I will be progressing very slowly on this build as it has been years (>10) since I built anything and I currently have no real workspace until my wife (key words) and I buy a house later this coming summer. I may post some progress shots on that thread anyway. Thanks again! Adam

02-17-2009, 06:53 PM	#10
Wurger Siggy Master Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 16,017	Ok Adam.Now I can see this.I think the plane could have been the standard G-6 one.Its werk nummer says it was plane of quite late series so it is possible that there wasn't the bulge. __________________

02-17-2009, 07:09 PM	#11
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 18,463	Does the extra bulge on the bulge represent the AS version of a specific version??? My G-14 has the similar option.... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk My 1/32nd Rendition of His Corsair: http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/2-p...3-a-20416.html

02-17-2009, 07:50 PM	#13
adamant365 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 6	@lesofprimus: From what I know (< a little), and the pictures I've seen, the AS version of the Gustav had no gun housing bulges on either side. Instead they had a streamlined forward fuselage with more gradual lines and with the gun troughs moved slightly forward. I'm also under the impression that the "extra" bulge on the stb. side made a varied appearance. By that I mean that when the starboard gun housing was needed to complete a 109, they used what was available. Since in many cases, what was available was the G-5 housing and since it fit on the G-6 with no problem, it was used. Since the G-5 was pressurized, it had the additional smaller bulge to accomodate the accessory drives for the pressurization system. As for the G-14 the AS thing holds true there. As for which G-14's had the "extra bulge," that would take a bit more research. Adam

02-18-2009, 05:36 AM	#14
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 18,463	Thanks guys, gonna use the bulge with the bulge on the stbd side.... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk My 1/32nd Rendition of His Corsair: http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/2-p...3-a-20416.html

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