 | AC-130 "Spectre" Gunship Pics.....| Modern Discuss AC-130 "Spectre" Gunship Pics..... in the Other Eras forums; Yeah, that's weird. We were checked for cameras before we went some places. Maybe that policy has laxed since ... |
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05-31-2005, 07:53 PM
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#31 | | "Shooter"
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Country:  | Yeah, that's weird. We were checked for cameras before we went some places. Maybe that policy has laxed since when I was in. They always told us not to. If caught with one, you were in deep guano.
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05-31-2005, 10:41 PM
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#32 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | It was all about mission security and deniability for us.... Alot of the stuff we did was HEAVILY Classified, and still is..... Cameras dont add into that equation....
Which is fine and dandy for me, as some of the shiit i witnessed i'd never want to be reminded of anyways.....
Posing with dead bodies??? Someones been watching too much Full Metal Jacket in the barracks before going overseas...."Today is his Birthday..."
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05-31-2005, 11:02 PM
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#33 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | No ****. To be honest, I wouldn't have wanted pictures of stuff like that for my kids, or grandkids to find later. Better that they don't know everything about what I did, or had to do. I think you probably feel similar in that regard.
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05-31-2005, 11:17 PM
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Country:  | Not very pleasent Les I dont envy you one bit.
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05-31-2005, 11:17 PM
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#35 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Im unfortunatly one of those kids that found their fathers Vietnam Picture Collections.... Not cool as a 12 year old.....
Yes i agree, as does any parent... TV and movies are ruining the youth of America... Theres no more innocence in the younger generation... (Sumatran Jungles excluded of course)
My son, being almost 18, has started learning some of the more "Detailed" parts of what his dad did in the Navy......
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06-01-2005, 12:00 AM
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#36 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | That's a touchy one. I know at some point I will probably talk to my son about some of my stuff. Are you giving him the whole picture, or parts of it. I know they see a lot more in movies and on TV growing up, but it's still detached. It's another thing altogether when you find out something that a relative did.
There is certainly stuff I did that I'm not proud of, but it doesn't make me any less of a man. Sometimes there are situations where you pick the shallowest ****. None of it is good. I guess it's a balance of things. How does he take the details?
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06-01-2005, 06:05 AM
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#37 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | My dad, generally, tells me anything I ask him. When I was younger he did refuse to tell me some things. I haven't asked him about those things since but he'll probably get on to them when he goes on one of his big rants.
I don't know how they got the cameras there but my dad is still sickened by it today. He's not too bothered about the fact he had to clear the corpses up [although he still says he remembers the smell] but the people taking pictures with them!
Oh yeah and that the MOD said he was going to get paid more for doing it, which he never did.  
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06-01-2005, 06:12 AM
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#38 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | There are definitely places that cameras do not belong. I don't have any gory pics like that as I never took cameras to places where they weren't supposed to be, with a couple of exceptions that were only on the flightline. Off base on TDY, if they said no cameras, it stayed home. Like Les said, anything on you that could give the bad guys anything or give them evidence of your presence is no good.
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06-01-2005, 08:07 AM
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#39 | | Forum Politruk
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Country:  | I know that my Dad and Grandad were very matter of fact if I wanted to know something, they'd just tell me.
I remember when I was quite young that my Grandad told me that bullets do not make nice neat holes as they do in the films, and neither does the person being shot drop down tidily on the floor.
The way I, and they see it, little lads like war, guns, & killing - they're practically pre-programmed to, and rather than ban it, or feed them B.S, it's better that they know about the courage and strength that conflict brings out in people, but also the sheer horror, misery and bestial side of it as well. | |
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06-01-2005, 08:26 AM
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#40 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Makes sense. I guess it is also knowing at what age it is appropriate to mention those kinds of things. Hollywood definitely tones down what happens, which is probably the right thing to do. If the real thing were shown in all of it's gory details, it would cause a lot of trauma.
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06-01-2005, 04:06 PM
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#41 | | He who does not skim
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Country:  | As free as my grandfather has become with information in recent times, relating to his wartime experiences, there are things that my great uncle still refuses to talk about. He'll take them to his grave. Being a para, his experiences were naturally quite different from my grandad's, and I respect him for it. | |
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07-30-2005, 05:45 PM
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| Hey everyone, I work on the gunships at Hurlburt Fld. and I was just wondering if anyone else has ever worked on them. Great site by the way.
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07-30-2005, 06:39 PM
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#43 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Hey... Welcome Sarge... Take the time to look around here and read up on some of the older stuff, get to know us alittle bit... I really look forward to seeing u post and become a member... I have a special affinity for ur birds, as theyve saved my ass once or twice in the past...
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07-30-2005, 07:06 PM
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#44 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | Hey, excellent! Welcome to the zoo.  | |
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07-30-2005, 07:11 PM
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Country: | That's quite fitting since you're a chimp.
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