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Old 04-23-2006, 04:50 PM   #1
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Who has the best Special Forces (military forces) on the planet, give me your top ten. 1 being the best and 10 being the worst of the top ten. I hope this is not to general of a question, I just have no clue who has the best. SAS, US Navy Seals, etc ? Give me your list and plz leave your national pride out of this list and just give the best as you see it and why. Thanks
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SAS/SBS in my opinion, all there are others who are also good.
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It is widely accepted that the S.A.S are the supreme special forces unit on the planet, as they have been everywhere and are extremely well-trained in all situations. But the main reason is because they have been around the longest, while being the heaviest of conflicts.

However, it will depend on the man, or men, in the unit. Easily enough I would be able to say that Dan (Ex-SEAL) would be better prepared and more combat capable than some SAS. Put it this way, if any of the best special forces units are in the vincinity ... you aren't going to have chance to be scared because they'll kill you without you knowing they're there.
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Old 04-23-2006, 06:21 PM   #5
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I am quite stupid so guys please help me and tell me which country the SAS is from. I know that the South African Special forces was once in the top five of the best, but I do not know now. Taakmag is the name, the are now pretty good, but I not know where they are in the world when it comes to the top ten.

The German anti aircraft Hijack team is regarded as the best in the world.

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Give me your list and plz leave your national pride out of this list and just give the best as you see it and why. Thanks
The thing is, with very few exceptions, no one here would really even have a clue who was best or why. The SAS has been widely publicized by media over the last twenty-ish years as perhaps being the best, and they've been featured in much literary fiction of the genre, but are they actually the best? Maybe. I sure as hell wouldn't know. I've heard some say the US Navy SEALs were the best. The Israeli special forces are supposed to be right up there too. Hell, even the Canadian military special types have never exactly sucked.

So I guess you could say, I haven't got the slightest idea who's the best. There's my answer.
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The SAS are from the United Kingdom, Henk. They formed in 1942, in the North African desert. There are other SAS units in the Commonwealth, one of the first incursions into Iraq in 2003 was a combined operation of Australian and British SAS units.

A discussion of the best could go on forever. And the only people really qualified to say anything is someone who has been through all the training courses, and served in all the forces. And that will never happen. The second best are operatives from each service in a room, discussing their tactics and past missions ... but since most of them are still classified , that isn't going to happen either.

The men in these units are constantly training, so obviously a ten year veteran of the SEALs is going to better than a freshly trained SAS operative.
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Oh, yes the SAS is the best in the world. That is true.

Thanks mate for letting me know and helping my small brain. lol

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Guys, this all boils down to The Mission.... What needs to get done??? Night Infiltration??? Riverine??? Desert??? Snow??? Mountains???

Bottom line, The Israeli Special Forces are regarded as the Most Elite... Ive trained with Spec War guys from all over the planet, and the SAS guys were always impressive, as were the Dutch and Aussie and German and ect ect...

As it goes, when we were working with other services, we usually ran them into the ground, out swam them, showing marksmanship scores and kill box %'s that no one could touch.... Even the SAS guys hold us in the Top Regard.... I never had to buy my own drinks in all the time I was in the British Isles....
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I never had to buy my own drinks in all the time I was in the British Isles....
Me either, but for obviously...different reasons.
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Oh yes the Israel's is also great. You lucky dog. Have you been to South Africa or did you train with our guys?

Once guys tried to Hijack these two guys who were in their car. Both guys who tried to Hijack these two fellows were killed. It turned out the two guys waiting in the car were from Taakmag Special Forces and did not stand still for that kind of bullshit.

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I trained with the SASFB on several occasions, in Greece.....

The SAS are not the best in the World.... In certain mission profiles, the are the most highly trained.... But in the broader spectrum of Combat Arms, the US Navy SEALs and the IDF Sayerets, including 13 and Matkal, are head and shoulders above the rest in training and operational tempo...
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les what did you think of the South African guys?

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Thanks guys for the information. Special thanks to you Les for your information. On a side note my cousin trained with US Navy Seals on more than one occasion. His comments were that they were very very very good, the best he had ever seen. He also served in UK for a time, not sure if he ever trained with the SAS, I will have to ask him next time I talk to him.
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On a side note my cousin trained with US Navy Seals on more than one occasion...He also served in UK for a time, not sure if he ever trained with the SAS...
Is he JTF, or something else? If so, what the hell is he doing talking to you about his training?


That is unless...you're some kinda Rambo type too.


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