Bird strike footage - Aircraft of World War II

evangilder · 08-03-2005, 12:07 PM

I just received this via e-mail. Included text is below. Scary!

Quote:

Good footage here of a low level birdstrike on a single engined Canadian
BAES Hawk trainer/fighter aircraft. It has a happy ending with both
pilots ejecting safely......

trackend · 08-03-2005, 12:14 PM

Nice clip.
Bloody heck Eric straight down the intake no wonder it coughed out it hardly touched the sides I thought they handled it really well.

the lancaster kicks ass · 08-03-2005, 12:25 PM

very interesting!

FLYBOYJ · 08-03-2005, 12:26 PM

WOW - I was reading the HUD and they took the strike at about 500' AGL, 230 kts, maybe on take off or during a go-around? They pitched up turned 180 and got about 130 kts, looked like they were about in the downwind. Just after that the screen distorts while in level flight, this is my guess when they ejected, it looks like they were a good 2500 AGL. There's no engine data there, so I don't know if there was an engine problem (flame out). The plane pitches down and hits the ground at 180 kts!

I train this scenaro in the L-29, except we don't have hot seats, so we're landing! (I hope)

Nonskimmer · 08-03-2005, 12:42 PM

Those guys were certainly calm and professional about it. Well done.

FLYBOYJ · 08-03-2005, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Non skimmer

Those guys were certainly calm and professional about it. Well done.

Absolutely - you see how consistent and smooth heading and altitude changes were made, airspeed hardly varied after they leveled out

evangilder · 08-03-2005, 01:54 PM

Great piloting skills. Thanks for the additional info, Joe! Always nice to get the skinny from a pilot!

FLYBOYJ · 08-03-2005, 02:10 PM

THANKS!

Gnomey · 08-03-2005, 03:48 PM

Really interesting video. Made all the more interesting by the extra info provided by FLYBOYJ.

Nonskimmer · 08-03-2005, 04:42 PM

Yes indeed. Thanks, FJ.

lesofprimus · 08-03-2005, 05:57 PM

I love the pilots comment right after the bird goes in...

Nonskimmer · 08-03-2005, 06:04 PM

FJ would likely know better than I would, but I think it was a pilot trainee and instructor by the sound of it. Like the original quote in evan's first post says, the Hawk is used as a trainer by the Canadian Air Force.

FLYBOYJ · 08-03-2005, 08:36 PM

OK Guys - I didn't even realize it had sound! My computer at work doesn't have a sound card! It looks like when the bird went down the pipe the IP took the plane and had the student try the re-start (that's called cockpit resources management or CRM

). They were doing right traffic and from what I understand them saying this was the last circuit. Any way the voice "Bitching Bill" (on the F-4 we had a female voice called "Bitching Betty") is calling out T-6 failure - the turbine section is basically falling apart! When they punched out, it drove the nose down.

Again, the pilot did a superb job - he traded speed for altitude, got it high enough where he maintained close to 130 knts (which I believe is best glide speed for an aircraft like the Hawk). The decision was made and out they went.

Every one I met who punched out of an aircraft did not walk away unscathed. Even though ejection seats have come a long way, chances are if you punch out of an airplane you are going to get f**ked up!

lesofprimus · 08-03-2005, 08:44 PM

I dont know ANY pilot who ejected from a jet that wasnt hurt in some way shape or form... Many spinal injuries and compressions...

One of my Dad's pals back in the day lost almost 2 inches in height after a successful (Ha!) punch out...

Nonskimmer · 08-03-2005, 09:06 PM

Still beats going into the ground with the bird though.

08-03-2005, 12:25 PM	#3
the lancaster kicks ass Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 19,945	very interesting! __________________ "Reminds me of the time I sank the Tirpitz" comments a Spitfire pilot, "One pass of course, old boy."

08-03-2005, 12:26 PM	#4
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,872	WOW - I was reading the HUD and they took the strike at about 500' AGL, 230 kts, maybe on take off or during a go-around? They pitched up turned 180 and got about 130 kts, looked like they were about in the downwind. Just after that the screen distorts while in level flight, this is my guess when they ejected, it looks like they were a good 2500 AGL. There's no engine data there, so I don't know if there was an engine problem (flame out). The plane pitches down and hits the ground at 180 kts! I train this scenaro in the L-29, except we don't have hot seats, so we're landing! (I hope) __________________ > I Support Doug Gillis <

08-03-2005, 01:54 PM	#7
evangilder "Shooter" Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Moorpark, CA Posts: 15,420	Great piloting skills. Thanks for the additional info, Joe! Always nice to get the skinny from a pilot! __________________ For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. Leonardo Da Vinci

08-03-2005, 02:10 PM	#8
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,872	THANKS! __________________ > I Support Doug Gillis <

08-03-2005, 03:48 PM	#9
Gnomey "World Traveller" Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Royal Deeside/St Andrews, Scotland, UK Posts: 16,518	Really interesting video. Made all the more interesting by the extra info provided by FLYBOYJ. __________________ "Success is not Final, Failure is not Fatal, it is the Courage to Continue that Counts" Sir Winston Churchill "To him the People of the World Largely owe the Freedom and Liberties they Enjoy Today" Enscription on Hugh Dowding's (AOC Fighter Command 1936-40) statue in London WW2 Talk: A WW2 Discussion Forum My Photo Collections on Flickr

08-03-2005, 12:14 PM	#2
trackend Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Canvey Island, Essex Posts: 4,030	Nice clip. Bloody heck Eric straight down the intake no wonder it coughed out it hardly touched the sides I thought they handled it really well.

08-03-2005, 12:42 PM	#5
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	Those guys were certainly calm and professional about it. Well done.

08-03-2005, 04:42 PM	#10
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	Yes indeed. Thanks, FJ.

08-03-2005, 05:57 PM	#11
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 18,460	I love the pilots comment right after the bird goes in... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk My 1/32nd Rendition of His Corsair: http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/2-p...3-a-20416.html

08-03-2005, 06:04 PM	#12
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	FJ would likely know better than I would, but I think it was a pilot trainee and instructor by the sound of it. Like the original quote in evan's first post says, the Hawk is used as a trainer by the Canadian Air Force.

08-03-2005, 08:36 PM	#13
FLYBOYJ IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 16,872	OK Guys - I didn't even realize it had sound! My computer at work doesn't have a sound card! It looks like when the bird went down the pipe the IP took the plane and had the student try the re-start (that's called cockpit resources management or CRM ). They were doing right traffic and from what I understand them saying this was the last circuit. Any way the voice "Bitching Bill" (on the F-4 we had a female voice called "Bitching Betty") is calling out T-6 failure - the turbine section is basically falling apart! When they punched out, it drove the nose down. Again, the pilot did a superb job - he traded speed for altitude, got it high enough where he maintained close to 130 knts (which I believe is best glide speed for an aircraft like the Hawk). The decision was made and out they went. Every one I met who punched out of an aircraft did not walk away unscathed. Even though ejection seats have come a long way, chances are if you punch out of an airplane you are going to get f**ked up! __________________ > I Support Doug Gillis <

08-03-2005, 08:44 PM	#14
lesofprimus Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi Posts: 18,460	I dont know ANY pilot who ejected from a jet that wasnt hurt in some way shape or form... Many spinal injuries and compressions... One of my Dad's pals back in the day lost almost 2 inches in height after a successful (Ha!) punch out... __________________ My IL2 Video Tribute to My Grandfather: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtzN5RuNNJk My 1/32nd Rendition of His Corsair: http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/2-p...3-a-20416.html

08-03-2005, 09:06 PM	#15
Nonskimmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 8,871	Still beats going into the ground with the bird though.

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