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01-06-2005, 04:25 PM
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#1 | | "Shooter"
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Country:  | C-130 crash in Iraq FUBAR
Here's what happens when you don't properly "NOTAM" (notice to airmen) an airfield under construction. A lack of communication over in Iraq.
Last week, one C-23 Sherpa flew into a U.S. operated airfield in Iraq during the day and saw there was construction equipment on the runway. Yet there was no NOTAM. A trench was being dug in the runway, and it was not marked. It's a long runway and they just landed beyond the construction. They filed a safety hazard report that was immediately forwarded to our higher headquarters and to the Air Force wing based here.
Well, it seems the construction continued and still was not marked or
NOTAM'ed or anything. A C-130 landed on the runway the night of the 29th and didn't see the construction. It wound up going through what is now a large pit on the runway. A few pictures are attached. The C-130 was totaled.
There were several injuries to the crew and the few passengers that were on board but luckily nobody was killed. Quite the set of failures somewhere in the system regarding this improper construction and no notifications about it.
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01-06-2005, 04:44 PM
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#2 | | He who does not skim
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Country:  | Jesus, it's lucky no one was killed! I hope someone hangs, over that!
That's not the sort of thing that should have ever been allowed to happen, especially when they've been called on it already!  | 
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01-06-2005, 04:51 PM
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#3 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Agreed, major FUBAR. It reallty is surprising that no one was killed. From the looks of it, I am pretty sure that's the EC-130.
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01-06-2005, 04:56 PM
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#4 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | Judging from the huge nose and those pods by the ramp opening, I'd say you're right. It looks like an EC-130. | |
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01-06-2005, 06:01 PM
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#5 | | Forum Politruk
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Country:  | Guess they'll have to take another gold bar out of Fort Knox for that Herc.
A credit to the soundness of its design though. | |
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01-06-2005, 07:05 PM
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#6 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | I can only imagine the fire and panic that happened that night..... Ive flown on C-130's before....
UNREAL.......
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01-06-2005, 07:15 PM
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#7 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | So've I. Not the most comfy way to fly, but it gets ya there. | |
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01-06-2005, 07:34 PM
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#8 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | I logged more hours on 130s than I care to remember. Fortunately, I never had a flight end like that. I could only imagine the shock.
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01-06-2005, 08:00 PM
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#9 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Try jumping out of one at 25,000 feet in the dark..... Not the most fun and really cold...
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01-06-2005, 08:18 PM
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#10 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | No thanks! I have this thing about jumping from a perfectly good airplane! 
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01-06-2005, 08:21 PM
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#11 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | Yeah, me too. | |
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01-07-2005, 02:10 AM
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#12 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | That certainly is a credit to the C-130 design. The fuselage is mostly intact.
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01-07-2005, 06:39 AM
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#13 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | Indeed, another marvelous Kelly Johnson design. They've been in service for a long time and have been a workhorse for many nations.
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01-07-2005, 07:06 AM
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#14 | | Senior Member
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Country: | They are brilliant aircraft. I think I read somewhere that not only have they been in front-line military service the longest but also serve with the most countries (60 +)
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01-07-2005, 09:34 AM
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#15 | | Forum Politruk
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Country: | Just a very grainy pic of my dad in one! | |
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