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C-17 crashes at Elmendorf AFB, Anchorage, Alaska.

Modern Discuss C-17 crashes at Elmendorf AFB, Anchorage, Alaska. in the Other Eras forums; About 2 hours ago a USAF C-17 crashed here in Anchorage, Alaska. I did not see or hear anything and ...

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    C-17 crashes at Elmendorf AFB, Anchorage, Alaska.

    About 2 hours ago a USAF C-17 crashed here in Anchorage, Alaska. I did not see or hear anything and only found out by looking at the news here 2 hours later. The USAF is not releasing any information as of yet.






    ELMENDORF AIR FORCE BASE, Alaska – The Air Force says a military cargo plane crashed Wednesday with four people on board at Elmendorf Air Force Base in Anchorage.

    Air Force Capt. Uriah Orland says the conditions of the four on board was not immediately known. When asked if there were deaths, he did not answer.

    The plane was from the 3rd Wing, based at Elmendorf, and Orland said it was on a local training run.

    Orland says first responders were still on scene more than two hours after the 6:14 p.m. crash.



    He says more information will be released later Wednesday.

    THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

    ELMENDORF AIR FORCE BASE, Alaska (AP) — The Alaska National Guard says a military cargo plane has crashed at Elmendorf Air Force Base in Anchorage.

    Alaska National Guard spokesman Maj. Guy Hayes confirmed the Wednesday evening crash of a C-17.

    No other details were immediately available, including whether there were casualties.

    Military police refused to comment, and other base personnel did not immediately return messages seeking information. Hayes was en route to the base just off downtown Anchorage to coordinate with the base's public affairs officer to release further comment.

    Anchorage Fire Dept. Captain Bryan Grella said his crew was just getting done with dinner at about 6:30 p.m. at the downtown fire station when something caught his eye.

    "It was a big, gray plume of smoke, and I saw a fireball go up in it," he said.

    The fireball extended about 750 feet in the air. He estimated the plume to be about two miles from downtown.


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    We had an Elmendorf C 17 here at one of
    our Air Force (Whenuapai) open days last year



    Sad Sad day

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    C-17 plane crashes at Elmendorf

    A C-17 cargo plane with four people on board crashed and burned on Elmendorf Air Force Base Wednesday evening, according to the Air Force.

    Air Force Lt. Gen. Dana Atkins, the highest ranking military official in Alaska, said at a press conference late Wednesday night that it's "likely there are fatalities involving this mishap." He said investigators were working the scene into the night.

    Atkins said the plane was practicing for the Elmendorf air show planned for this weekend went it crashed at 6:14 p.m. The huge, four-engine jet, which is known as the most advanced cargo aircraft in the world, crashed in what witnesses described as a huge ball of flame.

    "It's not an ejection aircraft," Atkins said during the press conference, held outside the Boniface Parkway gate of Elmendorf. "I mean, it's not like a fighter where you can eject out of the aircraft. So, likely nobody escaped the aircraft prior to the crash."

    The aircraft belonged to Elmendorf's 3rd Wing but officials wouldn't address whether the crew was Air Force, Alaska National Guard, or a mix.

    Initial reports indicated the plane had gone down in a wooded area about two miles north and east of the runway.

    A black plume of smoke was visible rising from the base starting shortly after 6 p.m.

    Firefighters at the downtown Station 1 say they saw a ball of flames and black smoke rise from base. They were called for an agency assist to a report of a plane crash but then were called off the summons moments later as they got out on the street, according to firefighters.


    Roger Herrera, 35, said he had been driving on Turpin Street south of Elmendorf when he saw a ball of fire erupt on base.

    "It was huge," he said. "My wife thought it was a nuclear bomb."

    He reached for his camera, but by the time he had it the flames had given way to massive pillar of black smoke billowing into the sky, he said.

    At the Boniface Parkway gate to the base, Karol Malone tried to get access to the base soon after the crash because of worries that her son, Maj. Aaron Malone, was aboard the airplane. She said he is a pilot on a C-17 who is planning to fly in Elmendorf's immensely popular Arctic Thunder air show and open house, which is set for this weekend.

    Guards at the gate told her to contact public affairs, who didn't have any information for her.

    "It's been an hour and a half and they haven't even contacted families," Malone said.

    Military acts have been gathering on base this week to prepare for the air show. Atkins said a decision would be made "very soon" on whether the show would go on.

    The announced headline acts at the air show are the U.S. Navy Blue Angels and the Canadian Snowbirds. In the past, the air show has drawn the largest two-day crowds in Alaska.

    The C-17 is commonly featured in air shows, particularly the aircraft's ability to take off and land in short distances.

    The Boeing C-17 is a large military transport aircraft. It can "carry large equipment, supplies and troops directly to small airfields in harsh terrain anywhere in the world day or night," according to a description on Boeing's Web site of the C-17 Globemaster III. "The massive, sturdy, long-haul aircraft tackles distance, destination and heavy, oversized payloads in unpredictable conditions."

    The C-17 holds more than 20 world-class airlift records, including one in which one of the aircraft took off and landed in less than 1,400 feet carrying a payload of 44,000 pounds, according to TheAviationZone.com.

    The worst crash at Elmendorf happened in September 1995 when an AWACS jet hit a flock of geese. Twenty-four airmen were killed when the radar plane went down. It was the first ever crash for an AWACS jet.

    Some 218 C-17s are in service around the world, including 199 used by the U.S. Air Force and National Guard, according to Boeing. A search of a news database found no previous reports of fatal C-17 crashes.

    One crash-landed on its belly in Afghanistan in January 2009, but it was due to pilot error, according to a military investigation. The crew failed to lower the landing gear and turned off an alert system, according to the Air Force Times. The repair bill for the $200 million plane was $19 million, the story said.

    Wednesday evening's crash is the second this summer near downtown Anchorage. A light plane went down in June after taking off from Merrill Field in June, killing one young child and injuring four other people.

    Gov. Sean Parnell and Sen. Mark Begich issued statements late Wednesday expressing sadness over the crash and sending well-wishes to members of the military. "Alaskans are very connected to the military, and our thoughts and prayers are with Alaska's Air Force family," Parnell said.

    This hit close to home as I work on C-17s. From what I am getting here on base, none of the 4 survived. But I will keep you posted.
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    Just wanted to give a update that they have confirmed that all 4 people on board has passed away. My thoughts and prayers are with their families.


    By the way, God does have a place for all of his creatures. Right next to the potatoes and gravy.

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    Hate to hear that. My prayers go out to the families.

    Practicing for an airshow? There are a lot of understandable reasons aircraft crash in Alaska, airshow practice is not one of them.

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    Sad news. My thoughts are with the families.

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    Geez... Please don't let me read that they exceeded max bank angle. Again.

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    Terrible to hear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by davparlr View Post
    Hate to hear that. My prayers go out to the families.

    Practicing for an airshow? There are a lot of understandable reasons aircraft crash in Alaska, airshow practice is not one of them.
    This weekend they have the Arctic Thunder Airshow up here at Elmendorf. I have been watching the F-22s and F-15s practice for the last week or so. I am wondering if the airshow is going to continue. Ops are certainly continuing. I just saw another F-22 and a AWACS take off out of Elmendorf a few hours ago.


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