 | Concerning the Hind's gun armament| Modern Discuss Concerning the Hind's gun armament in the Other Eras forums; I have seen the 4 barreled 12.7mm gun on the Hind models called either a gatling gun, or in ... |
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04-10-2007, 06:57 PM
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I have seen the 4 barreled 12.7mm gun on the Hind models called either a gatling gun, or in other sources a mini-gun. Just out of curiosity, which term is more correct, and why? | 
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04-10-2007, 08:40 PM
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Country: | It's called a Gatling Gun.... A Minigun is usually used when referring to a smaller caliber weapon, like the 7.62 mm caliber M134 Minigun...
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04-10-2007, 10:24 PM
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Country:  | Yes, it is called a gattling gun. Same as what you see on an A-10 Thunderbolt II is a gattling gun with multiple barrels that spin. The AH-64 Apache A and D models also has a gattling gun from memory. | |
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04-11-2007, 09:23 AM
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#4 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | No varient of the Apache ever had a gaitling gun or mini gun. The Apache A and D models use a M230 30 mm (1.18 in) cannon.
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04-11-2007, 12:07 PM
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Country: | And more correctly referred to as a chain gun. Think of it as a continuous loop chain and rollers that facilitate the firing and reloading sequence.
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04-17-2007, 10:55 PM
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Country: | Okay, I thought that what was on the Hind would more likely be a chain gun same as the others. I always thought of the gattling gun as using a system of chains and multiple barrels to load. I could have been wrong though... | |
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04-18-2007, 09:55 AM
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#7 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | The Apache does not have a multiple barrels. A Chain Gun is what the Apache Uses. Here is a photo, you see only a single barrel.
Most Hinds on the other hand use the 12.7 mm YaKB-12.7 Yakushev-Borzov Gatling gun or the twin barreled GSh-23L autocannons or the GSh-30-2 autocannons.
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04-19-2007, 10:28 AM
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Country: | Cool pic Adler. Yours?
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04-19-2007, 12:47 PM
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#9 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Nope I found it on the net. I dont have close ups of the cannons on the Apaches from our sister BN.
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04-22-2007, 06:25 PM
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Country: | Okay, the shots from the angles I had seen looked deceptively multi-barrelled. But I accept that the Apache isn't. | |
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04-23-2007, 12:11 PM
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#11 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | How can it look multi barreled even from a different angle?
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04-23-2007, 06:52 PM
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Country:  | The gun is a gas operated gatling gun type, is called YakB-12.7. ( edited, Adler already said that  ) 
The rate of fire is about 4500 rpm, 1400 round of 12,7X108 ammo is carried in the model hind-d. The muzzle velocity 810-830 m/s.  
The turret could be elevated +10º to -40º and it can be moved 60º to left and right.
There is also a container for helos and light aircraft wich carry one of this and two smaller 7.62mm gatlings: 
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04-23-2007, 06:54 PM
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Country: | If memory serves me right, the cobra has a 3 barrel gun that operates like a Gatling/Mini-gun. Could it be possible that you're confusing these to birds?
Haze also could possibly make the Apache gun look multi barreled. Besides that, I don't say.
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04-23-2007, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MacArther  I have seen the 4 barreled 12.7mm gun on the Hind models called either a gatling gun, or in other sources a mini-gun. Just out of curiosity, which term is more correct, and why? | Well technically the Gatling Gun, was a wheel towed hand crank rotating barrel gun, with a top loading magazine, served during the American Civil War
and a Mini Gun/Vulcan cannons are electric belt fed,that served from Veitnam to the Present, but same principal weapon
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04-24-2007, 09:59 AM
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#15 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Chief If memory serves me right, the cobra has a 3 barrel gun that operates like a Gatling/Mini-gun. Could it be possible that you're confusing these to birds?
Haze also could possibly make the Apache gun look multi barreled. Besides that, I don't say. | Depends on the version of the Cobra. There are Cobra varients with a minigun and there are Cobra versions like the modern ones that have the 3 barreled gun that you are talking about.
Below is a picture of a Marine Cobra that I took in Iraq and you can see the gun.
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