Dependence Day

[michaelmaltby]

On the erosion of personal liberty.

I urge all of you who celebrate the achievements of the Allies in World War 2 to read and discuss:

Dependence Day by Mark Steyn - The New Criterion

MM
Proud Canadian

[timshatz]

Steyn is an interesting guy. Have heard him before. Not always 100% in agreement but he is an entertaining guy to listen to. Makes his points.

[tomo pauk]

On the erosion of personal liberty.

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Think article is much more about. It describes declining society, and many points can be applied to whole developed world.

[michaelmaltby]

"... It describes declining society, and many points can be applied to whole developed world".

Christian developed world, Tomo.

MM

[Crimea_River]

Any deep discussion on this will likely get kneecapped by the mods as political. I like Steyn as he tends to walk the edge and provoke thought. I happen to think he's right on this one.

Coincidentally, I heard this on the radio on my way home from work tonight and right away thought of this article: Dire Straits' "Money for Nothing" Banned from Canadian Radio

[michaelmaltby]

I caught that too - sad. Dire Straits was the last band I followed.

"... Any deep discussion on this will likely get kneecapped by the mods as political. "

So be it. But Styn is on the money. And his piece doesn't factor in what happened last weekend in Arizona.

Political correctness has totally weakened/destroyed Christian Western society.

MM

[tomo pauk]

"... It describes declining society, and many points can be applied to whole developed world".

Christian developed world, Tomo.

MM

Japan & S. Korea might be included too IMO. And some Latin American countries excluded.
My bet is that within 1 generation same would happen to more developed Islamic countries - old Roman proverbial about bread & games seems very applicable after almost 1400 years...

[michaelmaltby]

The declines that Styn has highlighted - UK and USA (Canada by default) - are both Christian societies with strong sense of "fair play" and tolerance. It is this that as much as anything else has allowed Muslim culture to infiltrate into broad social values.

France is equally vulnerable and Germany is waking up. ("Multi-culturalisn doesn't work" -- Angela Merkle)

Korea and Japan while highly affluent are very "tribal" about their culture - Korea is one of the most racially "pure" (if you will forgive that anachronistic term) of all societies.

Korea and Japan may suffer from excesses of bread and circuses but will not lose their identities the way Great Britain has. Obviously - with debt comes vulnerability - and that is the major point Styne is making about the US, I think.

Thanks for follow-up.

MM